Why can't we share maps or request to share maps during wars?

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Benghi Bon

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Sharing or requesting to share maps is overall an incredibly useless, situational feature for me as of yet. It's nice in multiplayer but wow do I ever use it rarely in singleplayer due to the strict requirements.
 
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And also map drift across technology groups seems a little slow.
 

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I tried yesterday to share some maps and noticed i lose prestige if i do so... what is the point there really ?!?

And that war limitation is stupid..
Yes you lose prestige but sometimes those maps are really important. Mainly during wars... Wait... That's the time it doesn't work. Mare Nostrum, the DLC of useless features that could have been useful...
 
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I tried yesterday to share some maps and noticed i lose prestige if i do so... what is the point there really ?!?

And that war limitation is stupid..

What - do you expect them for free?

And as for the person that said the mechanic was incredibly useless, would you prefer to have to dow everyone to actively remove TI?
 

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When i trade maps i really really don't want to lose prestige. Prestige is important for morale, ae, diplomacy and a few other things. Is it dishonorable or shameful to trade maps or what?

I'd pay some gold for it, trade my maps for it, kill or threaten people to get it or something else logical. So why do i lose prestige... ?
 
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TBH, you can probably petition DDRJake for this to change, it's at most a few lines of code to remove the war check.
Can't you move it forward for is, by mouth? It'd be very useful and make the feature worth it because right now, it's so incredibly situational it's odd for it to be a paid feature.
 
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In my Ottoman game, I kept up with Europe in tech, owned most of the world. I had no idea about Scandavia or the Americas even though I had fought both areas in war. Wanted to take maps? oh wait, I can't. I have to have a unit next to the area to steal the map for the area. Couldn't get to America. Couldn't get into Sweden to have the unit next to the area I needed with out taking out 3 forts on the edge of the fog. I want to buy a map? Nope, wont let me. Really what's the point? With the spread of discoveries borked this patch, being able to take maps would be really nice but its one of those buttons (much like break alliance but that's another rant) that is there but simply is never used because there is no point to it. 99 times out of 100, you can't even get a unit to the area that you need.
 
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Odds are the subjects thing is because I guess they don't want you to protectorate some native and then forcefully extract all the colonial region information out of them instantly.

But that still seems a bit silly.
 

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Could the code blocking map-sharing during wars at least be removed @DDRJake?

It would also be nice if allies in wars (even if colonizers) would share maps or, at least, allow TI over their lands to be discovered,
 
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Because seemingly the game goes boom if you do anything but fight during a war. Seriously, let me annex a vassal when I want it.
 
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