I get that it makes sense to keep randomly generated empires from doing that, but why is it forbidden to create one. And is there a workaround?
Why can't Necrophage / Syncretic E. share Portraits ?
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I think they considered it a "bug" that you were able to do that.
Maybe they wanted to avoid a human species with servillent humans where you tick one to be male only and the other female only when that was added.
(like what a shame would it be to gender oppression in a game where you have genocide :S). I mean we have phenotypes for humans but color for aliens... Just to be politically correct (even if they could have made all of those phenotypes much more easily)
Edit : I stand corrected. It was before. Thank you Me_ for the info. Haven't checked in a while.
Maybe they wanted to avoid a human species with servillent humans where you tick one to be male only and the other female only when that was added.
(like what a shame would it be to gender oppression in a game where you have genocide :S). I mean we have phenotypes for humans but color for aliens... Just to be politically correct (even if they could have made all of those phenotypes much more easily)
Edit : I stand corrected. It was before. Thank you Me_ for the info. Haven't checked in a while.
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This change was introduced in an earlier patch than single-sex species.
I think it was considered an "exploit" that you could have a species that is partially necrophage and partially not. There were some unintended advantages to that (e.g. avoiding the need to subjugate other species for fresh bodies as Necrophage). Same with serviles - you could min max your species too much in the early game.
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If you play a race that 'needs to sibjugate others', then it forced Necrophage species to purge their prepatent species too! Using the same portrait used to be a workaround for that. If it is considered an exploit to use a civic exactly the way it was intended, then Pdx should have put more thought into how hiveminds work with various mechanics and make up their mind why they put them into the game in the first place!
Really? I didn't know the program would glitch if different species had the same Portrait.
Same name and same portrait makes the game to think it is the same spieciies (variants)
It is a useful trick for multi-player or if you want to set it up so that pre existing empires share their race.
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Yeah, as far as I remember it, the restriction was introduced to prevent the main and subservient species being the same. I think it was only really a problem for genocidal empires since have to purge their secondary species immediately and aquire new pops only by purging, not by sacrificing them. By their secondary species being just a variant of their main, they could keep them and didn't have to purge them. This meant that they were the usualy Necrophages, but as a genocidal empire with all their strengths and without their big weakness of not being able to aquire new pops because of purging, because Necrophages get more pops by purging.
It wouldn't glitch per say, it would do precisely what it's supposed to. That is, if two species have the same portrait and name at game creation, then the game assigns them as a single species regardless of any differences in traits. This is deliberate so that players could make a handful of predefined empires with the same species, however, the devs did not realize that this feature makes some strange (and unintended by the devs) setups possible.
So they changed it, but not by removing the feature (it still works) but by making it so that Necrophages and Syncretics cannot "abuse" it by setting up same species as both parts of the society.
To summarize: the core feature is not a bug - it is working as designed, but some uses of it were deemed to be exploits and were blocked.
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