Why can't Japan attack China from Mengukuo?

[CrasherZZ]

In my last game as Japan I created a battle plan that included units on the Mengukuo/China border attacking into China. After declaring war in September 1938 I started the multiple battle plans that I had previously created. The only one that wouldn't go was the one on the Mengukuo border. I then manually ordered all my divisions in Mengukuo to attack the Chinese divisions on the border but those orders wouldn't execute either. I then had to move of my divisions from Mengukuo into Japanese controlled China adjacent to Beijing. The attack orders would work only within China.

This was a huge setback to my offensive because I wasn't able to outflank the Beijing defense line by crossing the border to the south of the river line.

Since Mengukuo is a puppet of Japan, shouldn't Japanese divisions be able to attack into China from Mengukuo after the declaration of war? The declaration of war included calls to Mengukuo and Manchukuo. Is this a bug or am I missing something?

 

[Cpack]

In my last game as Japan I created a battle plan that included units on the Mengukuo/China border attacking into China. After declaring war in September 1938 I started the multiple battle plans that I had previously created. The only one that wouldn't go was the one on the Mengukuo border. I then manually ordered all my divisions in Mengukuo to attack the Chinese divisions on the border but those orders wouldn't execute either. I then had to move of my divisions from Mengukuo into Japanese controlled China adjacent to Beijing. The attack orders would work only within China.

This was a huge setback to my offensive because I wasn't able to outflank the Beijing defense line by crossing the border to the south of the river line.

Since Mengukuo is a puppet of Japan, shouldn't Japanese divisions be able to attack into China from Mengukuo after the declaration of war? The declaration of war included calls to Mengukuo and Manchukuo. Is this a bug or am I missing something?

Have you called them to war in the diplo screen?

 

[CrasherZZ]

Have you called them to war in the diplo screen?

I tried that, but the Call option wasn't available. Maybe it's not available for puppet countries?

 

[Voigt]

It is avaible for puppet nations, and puppets can't decline a call to arms.
You can either call them in using the diplomatic action, or in the war overview.
And you need to call them in before you can attack from their territory.

 

[CrasherZZ]

It is avaible for puppet nations, and puppets can't decline a call to arms.
You can either call them in using the diplomatic action, or in the war overview.
And you need to call them in before you can attack from their territory.

That does make sense and I tried to do it but the game wouldn't let me. Must be a bug then. Thanks for the response.

 

[Dlin369]

There’s a bug when you press the call all to war button where puppets get stuck/aren’t called.

go to each puppet individually when that happens on the diplo screen and manually call them in, that usually fixes it for me

 

[CrasherZZ]

There’s a bug when you press the call all to war button where puppets get stuck/aren’t called.

go to each puppet individually when that happens on the diplo screen and manually call them in, that usually fixes it for me

I see. I did go to the Diplomatic options for Mengukuo and Manchukuo to try to click the Call button, after declaring war, but it was grayed out. I clicked on it anyway, multiple times, but nothing happened. I guess the bug disabled it. I will reload the save game and try again by not clicking the Call to War on the Declare War screen, but click it afterwards in the Diplomatic options.

Thanks for your response.

 

[CrasherZZ]

I was able to call Mengukuo into the Japan war against China but it wasn't straightforward. First I Declared War without Calling Allies, then in the Diplomatic options I clicked Call for Manchukuo but the Call for Mengukuo didn't work. So finally I went into the War Overview and Called Mengukuo from there. That did the trick. It's just glitchy. Unfortunately I couldn't find anything about the bug by searching the forum or the wiki.

Need better documentation. You shouldn't have to post in a forum to find out what the bugs are. Is there a list of all of them anywhere?

 

[brainiac1530]

You shouldn't have to post in a forum to find out what the bugs are. Is there a list of all of them anywhere?

As it would happen, @bitmode made a tracker. https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/User:Bitmode/Bugs
I guess you could also try and dredge through the bug reports forum yourself, but keep in mind there's a lot of noise there.

 

[bitmode]

Need better documentation. You shouldn't have to post in a forum to find out what the bugs are. Is there a list of all of them anywhere?

There is an internal bug tracker. But outside the developer team only a few select volunteer beta testers can read (and create) bug reports there.

As it would happen, @bitmode made a tracker. https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/User:Bitmode/Bugs

It's really just a list for myself to keep track of bugs I have taken an interest in one way or another. Perhaps a QA person one day takes a look at it, but I would be surprised if it covered more then 1% of open bugs.