Why cant i purge planets anymore ?

[Rathengar]

I dont understand why it wont let me purge planet anymore when i enter a war and wanna set wargoals.

I am a collectivist / fanatic materialist in gorverning ethics. And i have em set on "Allowed" both slavery and purge.


Pretty sure i was able to do that my previous game, what have changed since i played last ? or have i missed something on my race creation ?
Or was it a mod i hade active letting me do that ? i forgot. it is reinstalled and without mods now since my archievement didtn work in ironman mod even tho showing green as active and no warnings about mdos disabling em.

I find it frustrating i cant figure it out, since i wanna clear the plannets. Am i really forced to overtake and then purge em now ?

Thanks for your help and time.

 

[Rathengar]

Nobody knows what settings are needing for "cleanse planet" to work ? or maybe know when it never works. Surely there must be a reason why i dont see the option to cleanse in wargoals.

Thanks

 

[Arnovitz]

You must have the xenophobe ethic to use it.

 

[Rathengar]

You must have the xenophobe ethic to use it.

Thank you very much !

 

[The Founder]

Nobody knows what settings are needing for "cleanse planet" to work ? or maybe know when it never works. Surely there must be a reason why i dont see the option to cleanse in wargoals.

Thanks

In the end Cleanse is just a combination of Cede + Purge, so it has the requirements for both.
Could it be you are down to liberation wars? Could you ceded and then do it manually?
Could it be there is any of your species pops on the planet, while you are set to "Xeno Only"?

You must have the xenophobe ethic to use it.

Pretty sure I used it as the stock Ix'Idar. As long as purge is allowed, it should be possible.

 

[Rathengar]

I have full on war active..any target i want , and i have it on all can be purged and enslaved. So i think hes right about the Xenophobe ... because pretty sure i was that in my previous game.

Sadly i cant double check since i deleted all old saved due to not having archievement active. I basicly only play to get the last few archeivement hehe (well clearly to have fun aswell)

But hey if you find another way, iam diffinently interested .

For now i will just start over ONCE AGAIN, hehe. Lost count how many times i have restarted a game due to bad starts or forgotten something in my race creation . But iam only 11 planets own in my current game so not so bad , first noticed this problem now since my first war started

And yes technicly i could cede and do it manually but there is a waiting period iam not interested in having that way around. I prefer i can conquer space i free right away while i have the 10 years wait timer for next war. (which i REALLY hate)

 

[The Founder]

For now i will just start over ONCE AGAIN, hehe. Lost count how many times i have restarted a game due to bad starts or forgotten something in my race creation . But iam only 11 planets own in my current game so not so bad , first noticed this problem now since my first war started

If you pick a small galaxy with only one adversary and minimal habitable planets, getting the Purger archievement should be rather easy.

 

[Rathengar]

If you pick a small galaxy with only one adversary and minimal habitable planets, getting the Purger archievement should be rather easy.

Hehe true, i consider that close to "cheating".. I feel better by having earned it with atleast standart setting on personally. But that is clearly only personal preferance.

But thanks for the tip still mate , sure aint a bad one if you are into doing it that way

 

[jdrou]

According to game files Collectivist should be able to purge all; Xenophobes can only purge Xenos.

 

[Rathengar]

According to game files Collectivist should be able to purge all; Xenophobes can only purge Xenos.

Those game files you are looking at is outdated then mate.

Because i just hade my first war in my remade game as Collectivist / Materialist / Xenophobe, and now it lets me "Cleanse Planets" when setting wargoals. And only change i made to my race diffirent from my OP, was adding Xenophobe to my ethics as Arnovitz said was needed in hes reply. And now it works

But thanks for your input still tho

 

[jdrou]

I meant purge policies require those ethos. Using that wargoal shouldn't require Xenophobe either though; all I can see in the war demand script is that you must allow purging of some type. Possibly also some limitations on what planets you can use it on (e.g. I don't think you can do it to their capital).

 

[Rathengar]

Patch notes 1.4.1

Misc

• Xenophobe Fallen Empires will now cleanse planets

Link to source: http://www.stellariswiki.com/Patch_1.4.X#1.4.1


Edit: I have allways been able to purge, but my problem was i couldn do entire planet as a wargoal. This seem to prove only Xenophobe can do it. Even tho not entirely haha. But best info i could find myself.
I swear i saw on wiki somewhere the info for player but i cant seem to find it again.

 

[jdrou]

Patch notes 1.4.1

Misc

• Xenophobe Fallen Empires will now cleanse planets

Link to source: http://www.stellariswiki.com/Patch_1.4.X#1.4.1


Edit: I have allways been able to purge, but my problem was i couldn do entire planet as a wargoal. This seem to prove only Xenophobe can do it. Even tho not entirely haha. But best info i could find myself.
I swear i saw on wiki somewhere the info for player but i cant seem to find it again.

I think that note means that AI or at least FEs will do it where they previously wouldn't, not that others couldn't or can't

 

[Diezy]

I'm quite certain Collectivist can. Are the purge policies enabled, I wonder?

My Fanatic Collectivst/Spiritual was able to set Cleanse Planet demands, at least, and I think anything that can purge xenos should be able to.

 

[Rathengar]

I think that note means that AI or at least FEs will do it where they previously wouldn't, not that others couldn't or can't

Hence why i wrote "Even tho not entirely haha."

I'm quite certain Collectivist can. Are the purge policies enabled, I wonder?

My Fanatic Collectivst/Spiritual was able to set Cleanse Planet demands, at least, and I think anything that can purge xenos should be able to.

I was Collectivist / Fanatic materialist in my game where i couldn cleanse as wargoal (right before i made post). And i hade it on for any target , and attack whoever i wanted. . Didtn work.
Remade game as Collectivist / Materialist / Xenophobe , and now i can cleanse planets as a wargoal. Which saves so much time ! Picking xenophobe as extra is not that much a problem since all will hate you anyway after you start purging.

Might try your combo out in my next game where i will make my slave empire ! If that combo does give access aswell. Some planets are just not worth enslaving imo.

Edit: I think the problem was it was hes last city, i tried load the old game up and noticed all hes conquered space was due to outpost's . But he only hade one city left . Pretty sure you cant cleanse a capital. So that explanes why i couldn , and that i need glasses irl.

 

[Stadhouder]

Hence why i wrote "Even tho not entirely haha."



I was Collectivist / Fanatic materialist in my game where i couldn cleanse as wargoal (right before i made post). And i hade it on for any target , and attack whoever i wanted. . Didtn work.
Remade game as Collectivist / Materialist / Xenophobe , and now i can cleanse planets as a wargoal. Which saves so much time ! Picking xenophobe as extra is not that much a problem since all will hate you anyway after you start purging.

Might try your combo out in my next game where i will make my slave empire ! If that combo does give access aswell. Some planets are just not worth enslaving imo.

Edit: I think the problem was it was hes last city, i tried load the old game up and noticed all hes conquered space was due to outpost's . But he only hade one city left . Pretty sure you cant cleanse a capital. So that explanes why i couldn , and that i need glasses irl.

I'm playing a Fanatic Collectivist/Militarist empire right now and I can set cleanse planet as a war goal. You don't need to be Xenophobe, you need the right policy settings. It's very well possible that adding xenophobe made it so you have the correct settings by default, but you can set them with just collectivist as long as you don't combine it with pacifist or xenophile.

 

[Rathengar]

I'm playing a Fanatic Collectivist/Militarist empire right now and I can set cleanse planet as a war goal. You don't need to be Xenophobe, you need the right policy settings. It's very well possible that adding xenophobe made it so you have the correct settings by default, but you can set them with just collectivist as long as you don't combine it with pacifist or xenophile.

I think you missed the edit i added to my latest post (before this one). I found the problem. He only hade hes capital left, which you may not cleanse.

So basicly it worked correctly first time around, hade i tried test vs another enemy having more then just the capital left. And i said atleast 3 times in my replies, i hade the right settings

But thanks for your input even so mate , much appreciated

 

[scaper12123]

In order to cleanse a planet, your choice of purge policy must support it. You cannot purge a planet unless you authorize purging all species or you authorize purging xenos and none of your species is on that planet

 

[Rathengar]

In order to cleanse a planet, your choice of purge policy must support it. You cannot purge a planet unless you authorize purging all species or you authorize purging xenos and none of your species is on that planet

I know , and i confirmed MANY times i hade all setting set correctly in several replies. Heck even in my two latest replies i confirm and and repeat what i am saying now.

Im gonna unsub from this post now since people dont seem to read my latest replies. Thanks all who helped.

But hey thanks for you input anyway.