Why can I not free my daughter?

[joos]

I married my daughter off to a neighbouring duke. He got into a war and his enemy imprisoned my daughter and her son (the heir to the duchy). After the war, which my stupid son-in-law lost, he paid his son's ransom and got him back. But my daughter continued to languish in the dungeons.

So I gave the duke enough money. But he still did not care to pay her ransom. I vowed eternal vengeance.

Then I gave money to my imprisoned daughter. I gave her 100 gold, which should be enough money to ransom out a duchess. But she also is not ransoming herself out.

So, I find it infuriating that I can't offer to pay her ransom just because she is not of my realm. I also find it strange that neither the duke, nor she, are bothering to free her.

 

[Dragatus]

What's the duke's opinion of her? I found that sometimes people who don't like their spouse refuse to pay the ransom.

 

[Zsrai]

What's the duke's opinion of her? I found that sometimes people who don't like their spouse refuse to pay the ransom.

It's likely this. He doesn't give a damn about her enough to pay the 10g to release her. I'm also pretty sure you entirely wasted the 100g you gave to her; I never remember a character being able to ransom themselves unless they were a land owner.

 

[ninoallen]

It's likely this. He doesn't give a damn about her enough to pay the 10g to release her. I'm also pretty sure you entirely wasted the 100g you gave to her; I never remember a character being able to ransom themselves unless they were a land owner.

pretty stupid reason to leave your wife in prison, why would a ruler do this? how would this affect the alliance? or your relations with other rulers?
what kind of man allows a member of his household to be held hostage? this sounds like the start of a blood fued to me...something ck2 needs

 

[Zsrai]

pretty stupid reason to leave your wife in prison, why would a ruler do this? how would this affect the alliance? or your relations with other rulers?
what kind of man allows a member of his household to be held hostage? this sounds like the start of a blood fued to me...something ck2 needs

That I can agree with, I was just giving the game rules explanation.

 

[ninoallen]

That I can agree with, I was just giving the game rules explanation.

oh yeah i know, i feel theres alot of things that ck2 gets wrong and that really needs to be fixed/implemented
i feel that the original dev's never expected CK2 to be sucha success.

 

[Thrake]

If you have seduction focus, you get the best of both worlds: you can go from bed to bed without your wife going mad at you and you still have the benefits from having a wife

 

[joos]

oh yeah i know, i feel theres alot of things that ck2 gets wrong and that really needs to be fixed/implemented
i feel that the original dev's never expected CK2 to be sucha success.

I agree. Despite flaws like these, every time I come back to CK2, I'm amazed at how complete this game is compared to the other paradox releases. There is just so much to do and observe, compared to the speed 5 waiting in eu4.

Edit: An update on the situation. The duke died and my daughter languished in the sultan's dungeons for years while her son became the duke and still refused to pay her ransom (+45 opinion.) Then, after I died and my son took over the throne, she was released by the sultan of his own accord. She (my current character's sister) now lives in my court, feeling the PTSD

 

[Susanna]

I love this game. Such stories it tells!

 

[RhaegarTelcontarTargaryen]

I strogly believe that characters should be able to ransom relatives, dynasty members, even spouses of close relatives. At a cost, and there should be penalties if you leave your spouse in a dungeon (broken alliance, rivalry, etc.. )

 

[Meraun]

pretty stupid reason to leave your wife in prison, why would a ruler do this? how would this affect the alliance? or your relations with other rulers?
what kind of man allows a member of his household to be held hostage? this sounds like the start of a blood fued to me...something ck2 needs

Joffery? Sometime they are just nuts

 

[CaptainSteve]

I strogly believe that characters should be able to ransom relatives, dynasty members, even spouses of close relatives. At a cost, and there should be penalties if you leave your spouse in a dungeon (broken alliance, rivalry, etc.. )

On top of that, your realm stats should go down as well.

There should at least be an event where your council can help if they are stationed on a county where prisoners are: Your spymaster can help prisoners sneak out, marshal can break them out, councilor can bribe people, etc

 

[Velorian]

I agree that it should be possible to demand their return (possibly with ransom) and threaten war, or actually going to war. If they kill their hostage as a result it should just evolve into a punitive war, the point is that you should be able to act.

Anyway at least there is one feature in the game: Intrigue Focus allows you to free captives through plotting.

 

[anomanderus]

Stuff like this has been needing a fix since 2012.

I agree. Despite flaws like these, every time I come back to CK2, I'm amazed at how complete this game is compared to the other paradox releases. There is just so much to do and observe, compared to the speed 5 waiting in eu4.

Edit: An update on the situation. The duke died and my daughter languished in the sultan's dungeons for years while her son became the duke and still refused to pay her ransom (+45 opinion.) Then, after I died and my son took over the throne, she was released by the sultan of his own accord. She (my current character's sister) now lives in my court, feeling the PTSD

I'm guessing people like you are why V2 hasn't gotten a new expansion in years