Why Aren't My Puppets Building Divisions?

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Aug 31, 2011
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I'm playing as Austria-Hungary. I managed to annex France and take the British Isles. I released the countries in Africa (useless) as a puppet and released England and Ireland. However, none of these puppet states have built a single division; even though England has like a 75 IC. Why are they being useless? They're all still at war with the UK, its puppets and Japan. They're not in any danger, Germany owns pretty much all of Africa and I have a 70-ship navy near the British Isles, but it's just odd that they're not building anything.
 

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I know that issue has been addressed, however it might be in just the latest beta patch? Are you using 1.01? IIRC, it was because puppets could not mobilize effectively, which means no manpower/troops.
 

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No manpower. the rate of manpower for majors is around 0.00012 a day.
 

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I think I do have the beta, but just to make sure where can I find it? It doesn't really matter for this game, every non-puppet our alliance has way more IC than Russia, China and Japan combined; but I'd like it for future games.

You need to register your game, then it's in the tech support forum. And you probably don't, as this bug was fixed in it, and puppets now happily mobilise and churn out divisions until the cows come home. Also your 'Germany making peace in WW1' bug from your other thread was also fixed in it.
 

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I'm playing as Austria-Hungary. I managed to annex France and take the British Isles. I released the countries in Africa (useless) as a puppet and released England and Ireland. However, none of these puppet states have built a single division; even though England has like a 75 IC. Why are they being useless? They're all still at war with the UK, its puppets and Japan. They're not in any danger, Germany owns pretty much all of Africa and I have a 70-ship navy near the British Isles, but it's just odd that they're not building anything.

If 'DH' is anything like 'HOI' then maybe the reason your puppet states aren't creating new divisions is because of a lack of rare materials. Maybe, just maybe... :)
 

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I'd imagine/hope that Autotrade would send them some, since I have a good excess from the USA and my various continental holdings.

I'd supply your puppets with some rare materials just to be on the safe side. It might just make a difference.
 

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I will, I'm tired of seeing Mali sit around and twiddle its thumbs all day.

In 'HOI2', playing as Germany, I used Flanders & Wallonia as puppets, and those lousy sods wouldn't create a single division until I supplied them with rare materials, etc. It seems that not only do we have to feed our puppets, but we must wipe their backsides, too :)
 
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In 'HOI2', playing as Germany, I used Flanders & Wallonia as puppets, and those lousy sods wouldn't create a single division until I supplied them with rare materials, etc. It seems that not only do we have to feed our puppets, but we must wipe their backsides, too :)

Scottland, England and Ireland finally built some divisions; it was the rare materials thing. I wonder why auto-trade didn't give them away, the USA throws rares at me for money and supplies all day (don't ask me what the USA needs money for).
 
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sobrano

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i dont have this issue...
my puppets are building divisions...
not a lot of divisions cause IC of puppets is very low to save resources for head nation
(i think it is a good think)
 
Aug 31, 2011
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i dont have this issue...
my puppets are building divisions...
not a lot of divisions cause IC of puppets is very low to save resources for head nation
(i think it is a good think)
Yeah, I think 1/3 divisions/IC ratio is good for minor puppets; just enough that they can gang up and take vulnerable enemy territories (such as Africa, etc) and not get conquered by rebels.
 

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1: register game
2: download beta
3: Profit

Unless you pirated the game this should be fairly simple.