Why are spaceborne monsters so clustered now?

[PalmettoExplorer14]

Anybody else noticed that the spaceborne monsters seem to be not so spread far out now?

You used to be able to meet Void clouds, crystalline entities, space whales, and mining drones in the same playthrough. Now you don't.

I think they way too clustered.

I also missed the shard throwers. Does anyone know if they have been added back into the game? Come to think of it, why were they removed in the first place?

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

Anybody else noticed that the spaceborne monsters seem to be not so spread far out now?

You used to be able to meet Void clouds, crystalline entities, space whales, and mining drones in the same playthrough. Now you don't.

I think they way too clustered.

I also missed the shard throwers. Does anyone know if they have been added back into the game? Come to think of it, why were they removed in the first place?

I have all four within spitting distance of my start.

I've got the associated stuff dealt with in my situation log.

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

I have all four within spitting distance of my start.

I've got the associated stuff dealt with in my situation log.

Hm...it could be how the galaxy is spawned. I usually have a 1000 star galaxy spawned with 3.75x inhabited worlds.

Still I'm not sure why they removed the shard throwers you get from crystalline entities. I actually thought they were cool and added uniqueness to my ships.

 

[ZomgK3tchup]

This was mentioned in a dev diary and is intentional.

 

[Ixal]

Anybody else noticed that the spaceborne monsters seem to be not so spread far out now?

You used to be able to meet Void clouds, crystalline entities, space whales, and mining drones in the same playthrough. Now you don't.

I think they way too clustered.

I also missed the shard throwers. Does anyone know if they have been added back into the game? Come to think of it, why were they removed in the first place?

The monsters are supposed to be clustered around a hive creature/lair from which they spread out. That has been introduced with 1.4 I think.

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

This was mentioned in a dev diary and is intentional.

Oh? I must have missed that one. Do you mind putting up a link for me please?

 

[Antediluvian Monster]

That was changed long ago: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...is-dev-diary-44-space-creature-rework.967310/

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

That was changed long ago: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...is-dev-diary-44-space-creature-rework.967310/

Thank you! I appreciate it!

Hm....I like that there clustered and spread out from that nexus but I think they could be spread out a bit more. I always seem to get space ameba and mining drones as well as privateers. I really want to get void clouds and crystalline entities.

Hm...the dev diary still doesn't explain why they removed the shard throwers.

Another thing that could be added to the spaceborne creatures is to have something like an event chain where you have to follow clues that lead you to the nexus.

 

[Antediluvian Monster]

It depends on the game. Currently I have huge concentration of crystals just off my starts, and loads of mining droids quarter of a spiral out (small galaxy). Haven't seen pirate or cloud yet. The whales and amoeba wander around and you tend to find them eventually.

Clouds in general tend to be more rare I think. They also don't have mini-boss system.

 

[chegitz guevara]

They're clustered for the same reason your empire is clustered.

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

They're clustered for the same reason your empire is clustered.

Actually I always have the clustered feature turned off for my empires.

 

[chegitz guevara]

I meant, why your empire is clustered around your home world.

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

I meant, why your empire is clustered around your home world.

Oh. Well that makes anew I guess.

Still I'm puzzled to the reasoning to the removal of the shard throwers tech you get from crystalline entities.

 

[chegitz guevara]

Me 2. I thought they were kinda cool.

 

[CocoCincinnati]

I like the way it is now. When the game first came out, I really did like the space monsters but after dozens of play throughs it become old hat and more a chore in the early game to clear them out so you could actually explore. Now you don't run into them as much so you have more freedom to explore early on and then when you find their home system, they are a lot tougher than they used to be to clear out of it. Plus you are supposed to get a good reward for doing so (research project to get tech, high mineral system, etc.). Anyway, I know it's impossible to please everybody but I for one liked the change and still do.

As for the shard throwers, they were kind of cool but ultimately, I never found myself using them much so they ended up just being more stuff to scroll through on the weapons list when designing ships so I don't really miss them. I did notice that the name shard throwers will still show up in the tooltip if you hover over the project after killing them, but you don't get the tech when you complete the project.

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

I like the way it is now. When the game first came out, I really did like the space monsters but after dozens of play throughs it become old hat and more a chore in the early game to clear them out so you could actually explore. Now you don't run into them as much so you have more freedom to explore early on and then when you find their home system, they are a lot tougher than they used to be to clear out of it. Plus you are supposed to get a good reward for doing so (research project to get tech, high mineral system, etc.). Anyway, I know it's impossible to please everybody but I for one liked the change and still do.

As for the shard throwers, they were kind of cool but ultimately, I never found myself using them much so they ended up just being more stuff to scroll through on the weapons list when designing ships so I don't really miss them. I did notice that the name shard throwers will still show up in the tooltip if you hover over the project after killing them, but you don't get the tech when you complete the project.

It's possible that they'll add them back in especially if Paradox finally gets around to adding a silicoid race.

 

[Secret Master]

The change that gave them a clustered start also makes it easier to find the "boss" of those aliens. There's plenty of tech and resources to be harvested if you bag them before someone else.