Who will you play first with Royal Court?

[InsidiousMage]

I'm assuming that when they say "primary heir", they mean "primary heir" and not "player heir". Obviously the devs could simply have been wrong, but the distinction between primary heir and player heir is clear.

Sure but they are also the same thing 99.99999% of the time so would be willing to be that the dev misspoke.

 

[Tiax]

Sure but they are also the same thing 99.99999% of the time so would be willing to be that the dev misspoke.

I mean I guess I agree that if we assume the dev was wrong, then we don't know how it works. But many people in that thread asked specifically about the implications for elective, so I think they would have quickly realized their mistake and corrected it.

 

[InsidiousMage]

I mean I guess I agree that if we assume the dev was wrong, then we don't know how it works. But many people in that thread asked specifically about the implications for elective, so I think they would have quickly realized their mistake and corrected it.

Maybe but they did specifically mention siblings, which isn't as much of an issue with elective, and the court mechanics are going to have to work differently with elective succession anyway. What happens if you are the King of Bohemia, get elected HRE and then a couple of generations later the Duke of Lorraine gets elected HRE? As a king you obviously still get a court but what the Duke-now-Emperor? Does he get your court and you start a new one? Does he inherit the level of Grandeur expectations your set up even though he probably can't afford it? It makes sense that the Crown of the Emperor and similar artifacts related to the title go to whoever the emperor is but it doesn't make a lot of sense for family/house/dynasty artifacts to get inherited by someone who isn't part of those groups.

 

[Tiax]

Maybe but they did specifically mention siblings, which isn't as much of an issue with elective, and the court mechanics are going to have to work differently with elective succession anyway. What happens if you are the King of Bohemia, get elected HRE and then a couple of generations later the Duke of Lorraine gets elected HRE? As a king you obviously still get a court but what the Duke-now-Emperor? Does he get your court and you start a new one? Does he inherit the level of Grandeur expectations your set up even though he probably can't afford it? It makes sense that the Crown of the Emperor and similar artifacts related to the title go to whoever the emperor is but it doesn't make a lot of sense for family/house/dynasty artifacts to get inherited by someone who isn't part of those groups.

CK3 Dev Diary #61 - The Royal Court

Greetings! Welcome to the first Dev Diary for the Royal Court expansion! As we mentioned in a previous DD, we’ll go back to Azure patch DD’s for a few weeks after this one. But do not fear, there will be some more Royal Court DD’s before the...

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CK3 Dev Diary #61 - The Royal Court

Greetings! Welcome to the first Dev Diary for the Royal Court expansion! As we mentioned in a previous DD, we’ll go back to Azure patch DD’s for a few weeks after this one. But do not fear, there will be some more Royal Court DD’s before the...

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If you become emperor, you keep your existing court (or start a new one if you did not have one). If you are an emperor and you lose that title, you keep your court (it becomes dormant if you drop to Duke or below). In your example, the Duke-now-Emperor has a fresh court, and you as Emperor-now-King keep your court that used to be the court of the empire.

This assumes that these answers (which are from one of the first dev diaries) have not changed in the past 8 months.

 

[vandevere]

I'm going to hold back on going after artifacts. See how they operate in Game Settings and such.

 

[jtorr]

Honestly, that seems a bit odd. I mean if I craft a sword seems to me I would pass it on to my son, regardless. There should be like "Dynasty" artifacts: weapons, banners, religious icons gathered on the Crusades etc. that would never leave your family, are passed down father to son. Or perhaps given to designated relatives. Or perhaps stolen (that could be fun). If what you say is true, the mechanics of artifact inheritance are not right.

Fully agree with this, in English they can just be called heirlooms.

 

[pengoyo]

Artifacts go to the "Primary Heir", not the "Player Heir".

This assumes that these answers (which are from one of the first dev diaries) have not changed in the past 8 months.

Looking at this answer from the devs it sounds like things have changed a bit (or maybe there is a difference between wearable and court artifacts). But this question/answer reads to me that crown artifacts follow the player heir, except if coded not to like the HRE's crown.

I think some artifacts are national treasures and shouldn't be tied to a dynasty. Like in CK2 the crowns of Byzantine and HRE were transfered to the next Emperor if I remeber correctly. I hope this is done for CK3 as well

Of course! At least for the Reichskrone; the situation with Byzantine crowns is historically more ambiguous because there never was A crown of the Emperor, but almost every emperor had one made for himself. While crowns of previous emperors could have been part of the imperial treasure, the loss of one to a direct heir would have hardly been felt like a big deal...

 

[pengoyo]

Probably won't be my very first campaign, but I do want to do a run where I adventure from Iceland to Burma, making lots of hybrid cultures along the way.

 

[Tiax]

Looking at this answer from the devs it sounds like things have changed a bit (or maybe there is a difference between wearable and court artifacts). But this question/answer reads to me that crown artifacts follow the player heir, except if coded not to like the HRE's crown.

That sounds to me like the HRE crown just works that way because every artifact works that way.

 

[The Shacks]

Chose someone thats suitable to be Rollo or his father in Danmark and do a proper Norse>Norman>Engrish campaign.

 

[pengoyo]

That sounds to me like the HRE crown just works that way because every artifact works that way.

It's a bit ambiguous, but it at least sounds like the Byzantine crown can be inherited by by someone other then the one who gets the imperial tile. And if that's the case, I would assume this applies to all crown's more generally, though I guess it is possible the HRE is the default case and the Byzantine crown has been specially coded.

 

[Tiax]

It's a bit ambiguous, but it at least sounds like the Byzantine crown can be inherited by by someone other then the one who gets the imperial tile. And if that's the case, I would assume this applies to all crown's more generally, though I guess it is possible the HRE is the default case and the Byzantine crown has been specially coded.

I read it as just a historical aside about the nature of the Byzantine crown, rather than a description of a game mechanic, but I do see your point. Perhaps @AreysAK can fill us in on what they meant.

 

[Anonymous01]

King of Ghana 1066, grab the Mandé gold mines and build the highest grandeur court on the map.

 

[mrstevehazzard]

Start as the Count of Naples in 867 and form a Western Mediterranian Greek empire to rival Byzantium. I was thinking of maybe reviving an early Christian denomination as a heresy, like Marcionism or Arianism.

 

[riadach]

I always do someone in Ireland with new DLC just to see if it's more immersive and this time will be no exception.

Kind of want to do a French count too, using chivalry to rise up through the ranks before establishing his own royal court and spreading French as a court language throughout Europe.

 

[Atossa]

If they finally have fixed the Bon reformation bug, Lhomon. If they don't, I dunno.

 

[Kris70]

I'm going to form a Egyptian-Italian Cultural mixed empire following the Valentianism dualism Faith and call the culture Valentian because mixing italian and egyptian with a dualism faith is funny

 

[Dadoverde]

Maybe a true Iberian empire.

 

[Azhcristokos]

I always make a custom character based on one of my friends. I was going to play my best friend as she really is (much prettier outside than inside), but instead I decided I am going to play a different friend as she would want me to play her character: a ruthless Anglo-Iberian polyandrist and empress of Hispania.

 

[Elyant]

Too early to say...