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Noice.I'd rather have Europa Universalis: Alexander.
Although hard to bring to reality as the realms of that day were.. Let's say, not very easily definable.
I'm starting to think that if Rome 2 is going to cover a bigger amount of time - possibly even starting in 500 BC - it shouldn't even be called "Rome". It could be renamed to something related to the ancient world in general.
And until Paradox does not announce such game, I can only dream of playing as Athens in 448 BC and building an empire from them.
And until Paradox does not announce such game, I can only dream of playing as Athens in 448 BC and building an empire from them.
Ah, why does that remind me of my glorious Athenian and Spartan empires from various Rome Total War mods. I would love to try it out in a Paradox game about ancient era.
Ancient Universalis, weeheee!
Rise of Egypt, Fall of Mittani, Greece Colonization, weheee!
Rise of Egypt, Fall of Mittani, Greece Colonization, weheee!
Of course a Spartan Empire can only really end in a bloody revolutionary mess when the number of helots skyrocket and the number of Spartiates remain constant.
Of course a Spartan Empire can only really end in a bloody revolutionary mess when the number of helots skyrocket and the number of Spartiates remain constant.
Athenians were 40,000 to 100,000 while their slaves were 200,000 to 300,000 and they scarecely had issues. It's all down to management
Well, there were citizens and non-citizens but not all non-citizens were slaves.Athenians were 40,000 to 100,000 while their slaves were 200,000 to 300,000 and they scarecely had issues. It's all down to management
I'd prefer it if it wasn't called Rome 2 as well.
It needs a broader focus, and calling it "Rome 2" is inevitably going to lead to complaints when Paradox do things with factions other than Rome, especially on these forums (how many times have we heard "but it's called Crusader Kings" before").
Various. From Isocrates to Aristotle. It's pretty much the same ones that mention all population groups of Athens, including the slaves. It was generally said that the non-citizens were the half of the Athenian citizens and that slaves outnumbered the citizens by 3 or 5 times (but were over 200,000)
Shams said that Paradox will not make EU: Rome 2.
Source: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-they-made&p=17809417&viewfull=1#post17809417
Source: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-they-made&p=17809417&viewfull=1#post17809417
He didnt say that, he said that in the next 3 or 4 years thats not happening. Which is a different thing to saying that it will NEVER happen.
But it really makes sense, making map for Rome2 would be crapload of research, unless you wanna go phantasy land.
"Also my favorites that we'll never do. [...] EU:Rome 2" doesn't leave much room for misunderstanding. Then he said that what they are going to make in next 3-4 years is going to everyone but Rome fans happy.
If what they do is those games he names, I'm sure that almost all of the fanbase (that likes strategy games) won't be much pleased.
It was obvious that that was never going to live up to the hype since ETW was released. Especially when you realize the only reason people idolize RTW so much is nostalgia. It's really not that great of a strategy game. Probably the only thing they did well was the civil war, and even that's incredibly easy to game.
RTW was really good fun, and has better politics than TWR2. The only reason TWR2 doesn't live up to the hype after the heavily patched battles is the shambolic political mechanics and the removal of much-loved features (the loss of the family tree in particular made a LOT of people angry, as evidenced by the poll which scored over a thousand votes in favour on the TW forums (around 92%); also the lack of event videos).
If Paradox make a Rome 2, they can automatically make a better game than TWR2 by including deep, complex politics, family trees and overall immersion on the campaign map level.
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