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The Canadians waged war to gather slaves and wealth.
Canada built an empire from its lust for gold and territory.
Trudeau shaped a battered Canada into an economic superpower.

But war never changes.

In the 21st century, war was still waged over the resources that could be acquired. Only this time, the spoils of war were also its weapons: Petroleum and Uranium. For these resources, Canada would invade Alaska, the Canadians would annex the US, and the EU would dissolve into quarreling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth thanks to the UK.

In 2077, the storm of world war had come again. In two brief hours, most of the planet was reduced to cinders. And from the ashes of nuclear devastation, a new civilization would struggle to arise untill Canada apologized.
 

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i don't recall an Austro-Serbian War being a World War either.

The Kaiser declared war on, and invaded, France and Russia. That's what started the World War.
You can't start a war that already started. Austria started the war, Germany just escalated it. And everybody knew the whole thing would escalate. Austria Hungary is to blame.
 

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We all know it is Obama's fault. Just ask yourself what was Obama doing to prevent this? Nothing:mad:!!! This will be his legacy that he failed to prevent WWI, which caused the WWII, cold war......etc.

Thanks Obama. o_O:p
 

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[/thread]

It is utterly bizarre that so many posters here who absolutely know better are agreeing that it was "The villainous Hun and his vile empire building". Then again the Balkans are involved in an internet dispute, so it's going to be tribal loyalties über alles. At least the EU's mostly corralled everyone onto the same team; is there a party line that's been decided on for education curricula? or what are most countries' high school history books like?

For the US a decade+ back, I vaguely remember my AP World History doorstop (a) going step by step through the Serbian terrorism giving the impression that end-of-day it was their intelligence service and Austria's (easily and correctly anticipated) response that set everything off. Austria may have relied on Germany's backstop but Serbia was itself (correctly and ultimately successfully) banking on Russia's Panslavism and interest in the region, if not direct promises. As far as the 'deep' geopolitical reasons, (b) it found it a vindication of Bismarck's obsession with keeping the French and Russians apart and thus inferrably a failure of the kaiser's airheaded pomp, which (c) also included the counterproductive antagonism of the British by the naval buildup, but (d) mostly blamed the necessities involved in the era's mobilization tables.

Based on Yakman so far, it appears Britain's textbooks might still obsessively fixate on Belgium.
 
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Bob from the 101th Street started it all after he called Ian's mother's mangos rotten.
 

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Because it's ze Germans ! It's always ze Germans. When it's not ze Germans's fault, it's ze perfidious Brits anyway :mad:
That's fun. The French textbooks blame the English?
 

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That's fun. The French textbooks blame the English?
no, they blame the germans (who else ?)

but for wars where Germany was not involved, they blame the brits

How to know who started a war in two steps:
- it's before 1866 -> it's England/the United Kingdom (depending on when the war is)
- it's after 1866 -> it's Germany
 

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It's too simplistic to say Germany or Austria-Hungary or Serbia or Russia or whomever started the war. That's why someone with a simple answer such as 'Germany declared war first' can think that he has found the correct one.

One way to look at it is that the World War was started when both Japan and the USA were involved (that's 1917) as that's when powers from all over the world had joined it. We've had other global scale wars in previous centuries but they were mostly colonies and settlers fighting across all continents, but no one is calling those World Wars.

This one was called the war to end all wars. Why's that? Perhaps because war was something ongoing for years amongst these guys but not against each other. Each power was pecking somewhere in the globe to assert influence and annoy a rival. So the answer to who started this war can be found with a simple question: Who was not satisfied with the status quo? Whomever you can name is part of who started the so called Great War. So essentially everyone started it. The only way the Serbian assassination group can be found as the only guilty party is when you ask 'what triggered World War 1'.

It's vey easy to put the blame on Germany since they were the culprits of WW II. Makes everyone on the other side just say "you see, we've always been the good guys".
This mostly comes from the American and British of course. The Italians and Japanese cannot argue this as they switched sides between the wars and the French aren't so pretentious when it comes to this question but they'll happily blame Germany for everything just because.
 

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I though it started when Archie Duke shot an Ostrich because he was Hungry...

Yeah, Konrad was rather keen on a war with Serbia. In the twelve months leading up to August of 1914, Konrad had urged his Emperor to declare war on Serbia on TWENTY-SIX separate occasions.

he also urged the emperor to go to war with italy and romania, you know 2 nations that were allied to A-H
his line of thinking was that these nations would attack A-H together if they were in a war with russia and they couldn't win that
and to the guys credit: exactly that scenario happened
 
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