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Was just a proposal.
You know, in EU you were able with almost every nation to dominate the world. I have no idea how the manpower will work in this new project, (don't hope it will work like in HOI
) but if ressources and manpower will work alike in EU, any country comes along might be able to rule the world. This will make a lot of fun, and why not start the WW I with a continent spanning Serbia or Liberia (don't think your avatar Ragusa will be in the game)
You know, in EU you were able with almost every nation to dominate the world. I have no idea how the manpower will work in this new project, (don't hope it will work like in HOI
) but if ressources and manpower will work alike in EU, any country comes along might be able to rule the world. This will make a lot of fun, and why not start the WW I with a continent spanning Serbia or Liberia (don't think your avatar Ragusa will be in the game)
Originally posted by rolin
Was just a proposal.
You know, in EU you were able with almost every nation to dominate the world. I have no idea how the manpower will work in this new project, (don't hope it will work like in HOI
poor little ragusa..well, one can hope.
Montenegro!
Um...actually, I'd say the Italian states have a lot of potential of outdoing history. Possibly the Scandinavian states (Sweden, of course, because the Paradox people like making them uber) for their rapid industrialization.
Oh - my favourites - the Dutch, Spanish, and Portuguese. They have colonial empires and if they can put their act together they just might be able to clean things up. Especially if the latter two can get their old colonies back, which they might or might not be able to.
I think the Spanish, in the end, have the most potential of really going somewhere that they didn't.
Um...actually, I'd say the Italian states have a lot of potential of outdoing history. Possibly the Scandinavian states (Sweden, of course, because the Paradox people like making them uber) for their rapid industrialization.
Oh - my favourites - the Dutch, Spanish, and Portuguese. They have colonial empires and if they can put their act together they just might be able to clean things up. Especially if the latter two can get their old colonies back, which they might or might not be able to.
I think the Spanish, in the end, have the most potential of really going somewhere that they didn't.
All,
In terms of historical potential, probably the United States (obviously), Russia (if it could've gotten its shit together and industrialized), Japan (human-controlled in 1835 means a Russo- or Sino- Japanese war before the West, apart from the UK, is capable of lodging a protest) or the Republic of X (where X is a Spanish-speaking Bolivian state, but only for roughly twenty-thirty years).
Additionally, a human-controlled US will probably crush the CSA immediately, annex larger portions of Mexico, Cuba and the Caribbean sugar islands and make a move on parts of Canada, things that would've been (or were) much harder historically. A human-controlled Japan will carve into the crumbling Spanish Empire in lieu of the US and Germany. A human-controlled Colombia or Venezuela can follow Bolivar and Santander's plan of uniting the Republics and driving into Mexico, industrialize and invade a weakened CSA or Brazil at once.
With a human player, of course, Spain can hold onto its colonies and go ahead with the planned counterrevolution in the Americas, the United Kingdom can maintain control over the dominions and strengthen its position in India (and China), France can make the rapid jaunt away from its mercantile economy and strengthen the Rhine, Prussia or Austria can unite Germany ahistorically early (and bloodily), etc.
The OE probably has a good shot at making a rebound if it can ward off the Russians and British, China could, conceivably, hold its own with human guidance, but it'll probably (and should) be a complete mess, one of the major Sultans or Princes in India would have an easy enough time throwing back the AI... And, if a human in Europe really wanted to straight-jacket the United States, supporting the CSA and Mexico with arms and dollars (assuming this is possible, and it should be) while making a play for California or Oregon is the easiest way. Depending on how similar Victoria is to EU, building a coalition and taking her dead-on, even in the latter half of the sixties, wouldn't be very difficult. Same deal with an independent Texas throwing spanners into the works by tackling the Confederacy and colonizing westward.
Personally, though, I think the Zulus show the most potential... As Monty Python so eruditely demonstrated.
In terms of historical potential, probably the United States (obviously), Russia (if it could've gotten its shit together and industrialized), Japan (human-controlled in 1835 means a Russo- or Sino- Japanese war before the West, apart from the UK, is capable of lodging a protest) or the Republic of X (where X is a Spanish-speaking Bolivian state, but only for roughly twenty-thirty years).
Additionally, a human-controlled US will probably crush the CSA immediately, annex larger portions of Mexico, Cuba and the Caribbean sugar islands and make a move on parts of Canada, things that would've been (or were) much harder historically. A human-controlled Japan will carve into the crumbling Spanish Empire in lieu of the US and Germany. A human-controlled Colombia or Venezuela can follow Bolivar and Santander's plan of uniting the Republics and driving into Mexico, industrialize and invade a weakened CSA or Brazil at once.
With a human player, of course, Spain can hold onto its colonies and go ahead with the planned counterrevolution in the Americas, the United Kingdom can maintain control over the dominions and strengthen its position in India (and China), France can make the rapid jaunt away from its mercantile economy and strengthen the Rhine, Prussia or Austria can unite Germany ahistorically early (and bloodily), etc.
The OE probably has a good shot at making a rebound if it can ward off the Russians and British, China could, conceivably, hold its own with human guidance, but it'll probably (and should) be a complete mess, one of the major Sultans or Princes in India would have an easy enough time throwing back the AI... And, if a human in Europe really wanted to straight-jacket the United States, supporting the CSA and Mexico with arms and dollars (assuming this is possible, and it should be) while making a play for California or Oregon is the easiest way. Depending on how similar Victoria is to EU, building a coalition and taking her dead-on, even in the latter half of the sixties, wouldn't be very difficult. Same deal with an independent Texas throwing spanners into the works by tackling the Confederacy and colonizing westward.
Personally, though, I think the Zulus show the most potential... As Monty Python so eruditely demonstrated.
Sweden won't have much potential after about 15 years.
When the Tomas and Bessemer processes came along 80 or so % of the Swedish export became worthless.
Only way to become anything is to jumpstart the 2nd industrial revolution. Meaning that electricity has to be discovered several decades earlier.
Originally posted by HolisticGod
Personally, though, I think the Zulus show the most potential... As Monty Python so eruditely demonstrated.
Yeah, a human player will lead the glorious zulu people to conquer whole africa, and then the whole world !!!
Zulu is great ! Zulu is future
You put to much stock into technological advances in military land technology of the early 19th Century. We are not talking about anything like the German King Tiger of 1944 could defeat 100 Soviet T-26's(If you could fit 100 shells into the tiger
). Technology back then didn't have the same benefits as it does now. PS. This is relative. I will not argue the fact that a modern small British contengent could trounce the primitive Zulus. But I don't think you want to compare Russian and Zulu technology of the 19th Century, do you?
Who says I was only talking about technology?Originally posted by czaralex
You put to much stock into technological advances in military land technology of the early 19th Century. We are not talking about anything like the German King Tiger of 1944 could defeat 100 Soviet T-26's(If you could fit 100 shells into the tiger
PS. This is relative. I will not argue the fact that a modern small British contengent could trounce the primitive Zulus. But I don't think you want to compare Russian and Zulu technology of the 19th Century, do you?