Who are you looking forward to playing as?
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Mod in China, then play someone unexpected.
Play as Yan and dividing Zhongshan with Zhao, then take over Korea and the Northeast, taking revenge on Qi;
Or play as Zhongshan and fend off incursions, and even turning the North Chinese plain into Zhongshan land;
Or play as Ouyue and unite the Yue, before taking the old land from Chu;
Or play as Song or Kija Joseon and revive the Shang empire;
Or as any of the Zhou, unite the three Zhou's and reassert imperial power;
Or one of the majors, Chu, and try to reform. After all, Qu Yuan is still alive and relatively young at game start.
Play as Yan and dividing Zhongshan with Zhao, then take over Korea and the Northeast, taking revenge on Qi;
Or play as Zhongshan and fend off incursions, and even turning the North Chinese plain into Zhongshan land;
Or play as Ouyue and unite the Yue, before taking the old land from Chu;
Or play as Song or Kija Joseon and revive the Shang empire;
Or as any of the Zhou, unite the three Zhou's and reassert imperial power;
Or one of the majors, Chu, and try to reform. After all, Qu Yuan is still alive and relatively young at game start.
But Carthage is Levantine/African, not European. (You probably don't car what the Papal Tiara avatar says though, so you do you.)
When we get up there I hope we get the Dumnonii. I'll see you up there my, fellow Celt!
If you destroy Rome, you save all these european natives, the Gauls, the Iberians, the Celtic World, and without Rome, theres no European christianity, so you save the pagan world! xD
Or a simpler answer would be that the people living in Carthage and Phoenicia in modern days aren't European as their predecessors?
If European even means anything.. I don't even know what you mean by it.
A group that is native too or has dwelled for a long time in the region extending west of Asia that is seperated from Asia by the Ural Mountain Range, The Caspian and Black Sea, the Caucaus mountains then the Bosphorus, Sea of Marmara, and finally the Hellespont. This includes any islands nearer geographically to the aforementioned continent than either Africa or Asia. The definition may be extend as a demonym for people of close ethnic and cultural descent living else were, mostly as descendents of the aforementioned continents wave of colonialism begining in the late fifteenth century.
That's the definition I'm running with.
Either from a theological or historical context who is to say that a very similar Jewish Messianic movement or other dogmatic montheistic faith would not have spread rapidly displacing the native pagans. If you read Roman writers many turned to minority mystery cults in the classical faith because Hellenism had little moral authority or teachings. This is the same thing that led to the flowering of Greek philosophy that began with Thales of Miletus. You read Plato and it quickly becomes apparent that Socrates and the sophists had little love for the gods. However the Romans' general agnosticism is partly due to their decadence, so no Rome, then what? The spread of Christianity to the intelligensia was speed by the lack of satisfaction men like Justin Martyr had with the weakness and hopelessness of Hellenism. Think about it, if your not some hero, your damned to Asphodel. These weird Jews say I there is a God who actually cares about me and who has reasonable expectations for me to go to the good place! Finally you have to remember the general shift towards monotheism amount the Nabataeans, Chaldeans, and Arabs. The last NeoBabylonian emperor, Nabonidus spent much of his reign encouraging the worship of the moon god Sin as supreme while pushing other deitiesdaside. I guess what I am saying is we don't know which side is right in this debate. It didn't happen, so you'll never know. It's fun to think and debate about though.
TBH, the whole "european" identity was never present in the ancient time. The romans and greeks had way more to do with perisa and even india then they did with gaul
Definitely going to start with a Gaulish tribe at first, probably the Arvenni, and try to unify the Gaulish tribes under a centralized nation, subjugate Massilia and the other Greek colonies, and create a state with France's natural borders.
Then I don't know. Probably a Persian nation to kick out the Seleukids and create a true Persian Empire, a Greek minor to reunite Greece, or Judea and recreate the Kingdom of Israel (or become a merchant republic for politically incorrect humor
).
Maybe Lugia or Corinth for pokemon/soccer jokes.
Then I don't know. Probably a Persian nation to kick out the Seleukids and create a true Persian Empire, a Greek minor to reunite Greece, or Judea and recreate the Kingdom of Israel (or become a merchant republic for politically incorrect humor
).Maybe Lugia or Corinth for pokemon/soccer jokes.
I'm probably going to go with the meme and play my first game as the Boi. I'm going into Imperator with a small personal goal to never once play as Rome itself.
Rome, to grasp all the mechanics. Then, a Iberian Tribe, try to unify and civilize Hispania, make it wealthy, populous, and put up a fight against roma and Carthague, altering the balance of powers in the mediterranean.
