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o_O It's exactly like the entertainment value of watching e-sports, or non-e-sports.
I've never understood how some people get so passionate about ice hockey, football and such, even tho they are not playing themselves. The sport I've most been interested in watching was disc golf and just some of the players who had beautiful or unique form.
 

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If you people cannot wait to get your hands on the game (I know I can't) here is an advice: Read some Battletech books while waiting to get the feel of the world and universe. Just yesterday I realised that Deat Legion saga starts a year before events of the game. So you basically build your company parallel to Greysons. Just imagine how coll it would be to meet them on the battlefield.

You wont, they are working a couple of hundered Lightyears away from this area in the Lyran Commonwealth. But i'm already doing some research for a Mod which will include NPC Mercs which are stationed in that area.
 

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And that while you may be the best player, a little bit of good (bad) luck can allow the noobiest player to beat you in PvP skirmish.
 

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His gameplay made and still makes me cringe (rushing Fire Support mechs up close, ignoring mech roles, ignoring the most dangerous enemy leading his BlackJack to be cored by a Jagermech, etc.), but he approached it from a new player perspective and him blundering was quite entertaining to watch at times. It's also good advertisement for the game, and I hope it does well so we can get more stuff and sequels (I really want the clan invasion timeline).

Starting streaming 3 weeks in advance was a bit too soon, but I hope this might mean we actually get the game a bit earlier. I pre-ordered it and bought a copy for a friend, because I really want this game to do well.
 

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Why did I watch Cohh play through the game up until the point he was told not to? Well simply I have been waiting years for this game and wanted to see how it played. Especially the parts not covered in the Backer Beta which I did enjoy. While many of the videos or chats that HBS had about the topic I learn best from seeing it than hearing about it.

Topics I was interested in:
- Contracts
- Mech Repair Costs
- Argo Upgrades
- Morale
- Reputation
- Salvage
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and probably others but those are what I could think of off the top.

And again while the Developers (HBS) did go over it best they can I learn better from seeing. As for why I watch Cohh because NGNG wasn't playing it while I was watching, and the other streamers did not hold my interest (also I do not speak Russian). Also I hope the streamers are getting the hype out because the game looks great from what I seen and more people will buy it hopefully which means maybe more DLCs or more Battletech games in other time periods.
 

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While I was yelling at the screen along with the rest of the old guys in the forums, that was partly the point: having him blindly stumble through shows that the game is easy to pick up, forgiving enough you won't rage quit, and can (relatively quickly) get better at and eventually master. He also (clearly) got a lot of people into a "I could totally do better!" attitude which equates to interest and sales.

Most important, he's generating interest in a group that was either on the fence or didn't know the game existed, which is key to the "in success" aspect of the game. He's a streamer the dev's trusted to stay within the limits they put out, is polite and respectful in his stream, and is telling people "I enjoy this and I think you will too".

Finally he is also willing to push the game. He frequently asks "new player confusion" questions and during gameplay "does it live" or "for science", acknowledging whatever he's doing is not the best call, because he wants to stress and push the game. This is invaluable for the devs because he represents a real world player who will go directions and do things they didn't anticipate. The devs have said they are actively watching his streams and fixing bugs encountered/balancing game aspects.

All of this gets us a better game at no real expense other than a small amount of jealousy.

So in conclusion: the fact that you're asking "who is this guy and why is he playing?" means they made the right call.

Thoughts? Discussion?
 

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The worst part is just as he was starting to get the hang of things, he's going to shelve it to play God of War. He said he will intermittently pick it up again between now and release, but I sense a lot of people going into withdrawal in the meantime.

Yeah, he ran into the story embargo and had other events planned. I have a feeling the game is going to be in his regular rotation for a while after launch.
 

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The devs have said they are actively watching his streams and fixing bugs encountered/balancing game aspects.
Not only that, but in at least one instance they were fixing bugs in real time as he was finding them. Literally the bug would be encountered and they would go in and sort it, which is a pretty neat way of doing things.
 

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Nothing like finding bugs by giving the game to someone who has no idea what to do and watching them discover new and amusing ways to do things.

QA testers can get focused on the game to such a point that they can miss obvious bugs because they don't do those actions necessary to show the bug because they know that isn't what you should do.
 

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It is simply a case of marketing reach. Streamers today reach thousands of people that normal advertising doesn't, so we utilize them to get the word out beyond the core fans that the game is coming. They always have restrictions on what they can show though, it isn't the full game, it is limited.

For any game, not just BATTLETECH, it is important that people are aware that it is exists in order to buy it and for it to be successful. Most people won't back games on Kickstarter or pre-order them, they won't actively go find out about whats being released or coming soon, these are people we need to make an actual effort to make aware of it's existence. Streaming is a great way of doing this.

Hopefully you also like the streams, but if not, we will still have the PDX/HBS streams which should appeal to you more, assuming you like watching the devs play/talk about the game. ;)

I came in here to say I WANT MORE STREAMS.

When are press release keys going to be given out? I understand the "sponsor the bigger streamers like Cohh" phase has been had and is over. So when will the handing out of press keys to more medium sized content creators come about?

I yearn for more Battletech footage.
 

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I'm not sure what Paradox's usual MO is, but with other games you typically see broad scale streaming in the week before release, sometimes 2 weeks before.

Generally they do the week of, or the week before.

With a Tuesday release I would expect the week before.

Though with Surviving Mars it was 2 weeks before I think. The difference of course is that Battletech is an established brand / universe / fanbase Surviving Mars wasn't. Which if anything won't help those of us who want more BT streams sooner.

They may have done that because Mars lacks the establishment of Battletech.
 

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I understand the "sponsor the bigger streamers like Cohh" phase has been had and is over.
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I've been told that it's barely begun. Cohh got early access (as opposed to any other streamer with lots of followers) for some unknown reason, but he won't be the last. People seem to think the number of streamers will increase as time goes by, and this makes sense: why would HBS/PDX early release to only one streamer? There's not much reason to do that.
 

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I'm having major withdrawal symptoms right about now.

CohhCarnage, the bad player and noob that he is, was still streaming a port of my childhood.
Can't wait for more streamers to start.

Maybe get totalbiscuit to do one. That'll be hilarious.
 

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Apparently TB has access to same beta build as Cohh has, but TB is struggling with some serious back issues (insane pain 24/7) and those render him unable to work.

Oh, no! Hope he feels better soon. I've enjoyed his YouTube content for a couple of years now.