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When I recently went on youtube to watch some esports, I somehow stumbled upon this guy streaming battletech (cronage or whatever he was called). So I guess this company is giving out games to streamers in order to show off the game? If so, why are they streaming the whole game, 3 weeks in advance? Normally I would only watch a stream for a game I do not intend to buy or play- call me old (I am 39) but why would anyone want to watch this guy if you intend to play this game yourself?
 

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Streaming has become very popular with showing off a game before release to get excitement for a game. It is proven to get more people to buy the game with marketing that is practically free.
 

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I get that, I used to watch until dawn with jesse cox, because I was interested in the story, but didn't want to buy the game myself (or play it). My question is, why would anyone want to watch the whole stream and then still buy the game?
 

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He's only allowed to play (PUBLICLY) up to the embargo point....which he is following.
 

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Cohh Carnage is limited to how far he can take the story mission on his stream. Others, like myself, like to actually see how things have changed from the backer beta as far as the combat element goes as well as getting a look at the campaign/merc sim side of things as well as gauge how others are reacting to the game. Very much a personal choice type of thing.
 

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The streamers are limited in what they can play so they do not spoil the story. Blocked from going past an early story mission. Most of the people that backed or followed were mostly aware of the early goings-on of the story so not much is being spoiled. The big draw of people you see right now are veterans of both the Mechwarrior computer games, and Battletech Table Top Strategy game. Most are very interested in what the mechanics are so we are rabidly watching it for every small detail and stat, mostly us Table Top or TT players, hehe. Mostly a good and quite helpful community from what I have seen lurking around here and there over the years.
 

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Also...you don't have to watch all of it.

I just click through the parts that are story or crew interactions and watch just the procedural stuff.

So i dont watch the live stuff...just the VoD afterwards.
 

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I get that, I used to watch until dawn with jesse cox, because I was interested in the story, but didn't want to buy the game myself (or play it). My question is, why would anyone want to watch the whole stream and then still buy the game?
Because, like with Battle Brothers and Darkest Dungeon, you are not likely to take on the same contracts and develop your mercenary company the same way he is. This makes it free to watch without ruining the game for you.
 

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Why watch it? To get a sense of how it plays to determine whether or not to buy. It's like a much longer, in depth versions of those teaser videos on Steam and Gog.

- Shane
 

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Okay, got it. If he isnt allowed to stream the whole story I think its okay. Although I personally can´t stand this guy, but this is probably a personal preference type of thing^^
 

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In addition to that, he didnt even play well or did anything interesting, other than that he had the game in advance

Someone is incredibly salty and jelly. Believe me, im jelly that he got to play as well, but just wait, build the anticipation, be excited when it comes out and play to your hearts content.

If anything, his stream worked, it gave me alot of anticipation. I cant wait now.

Also, he didnt get to play the whole game, he was told to stop playing at a certain mission, something about Panzyr.
 

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Someone is incredibly salty and jelly. Believe me, im jelly that he got to play as well, but just wait, build the anticipation, be excited when it comes out and play to your hearts content.

If anything, his stream worked, it gave me alot of anticipation. I cant wait now.

Also, he didnt get to play the whole game, he was told to stop playing at a certain mission, something about Panzyr.
I am not a kid, kid. I just don´t get the entertainment value- but to each their own.
 

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It is simply a case of marketing reach. Streamers today reach thousands of people that normal advertising doesn't, so we utilize them to get the word out beyond the core fans that the game is coming. They always have restrictions on what they can show though, it isn't the full game, it is limited.

For any game, not just BATTLETECH, it is important that people are aware that it is exists in order to buy it and for it to be successful. Most people won't back games on Kickstarter or pre-order them, they won't actively go find out about whats being released or coming soon, these are people we need to make an actual effort to make aware of it's existence. Streaming is a great way of doing this.

Hopefully you also like the streams, but if not, we will still have the PDX/HBS streams which should appeal to you more, assuming you like watching the devs play/talk about the game. ;)
 

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I get that, I used to watch until dawn with jesse cox, because I was interested in the story, but didn't want to buy the game myself (or play it). My question is, why would anyone want to watch the whole stream and then still buy the game?

Personally I like seeing what I will be playing in three weeks time. It allows me to deal with my rising anticipation levels and learn about the merc sim part of the game and what mistakes not to make. Well try not to make.

As to why they got given copies of the game to play. Cohhcarnage has a Twitch.tv following of almost 1 million people. I don't know how many subscribers he has but it has to be a significant amount of people. His streams were being watched by an average of 15,000 people with quite a few of them new to the game or even the Battletech universe. We saw a lot of people asking how to purchase/pre order and a lot of them announcing they just did so.

Then there are all the people who watch his clips on twitch later on or on youtube. Some of them will be interested in the game too. And that's what HBS and Paradox want. As many people as possible to purchase the game. Because when they buy it, a profit is made which allows the company to keep going and work on expansions or sequels.

They might not need to do another kickstarter for a sequel.
 

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I am not a kid, kid. I just don´t get the entertainment value- but to each their own.
Wut? I didnt even call you a kid lol. You dont get what entertainment value? Watching someone else play the game? I typically cant stand watching streams, up until Cohh and BT, I havent watched a single one. I find it amusing for the learning, what to expect in the game, and yeah, just the entertainment value of getting a sneak peek preview of an upcoming game I am very eagerly awaiting. I guess you could say its giving me my fill of the game, cutting down on the anxiousness while we wait.
 

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In addition to that, he didnt even play well or did anything interesting, other than that he had the game in advance

That just shows that a new player, jumping into the game will be able to play. They won't be able to play well but they can have fun and won't be discouraged by not knowing how to do anything.

Cohh has shown that while he may not know the best way to play, he could still advance and get better even when he made mistakes.

So this game will appeal to new players or old salts, and won't drive new players away because of a steep learning curve.
 

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I personaly don't mind some guy playing the game before the release. It only hurts me to watch the way he plays and stupid things he does in combat.
If you people cannot wait to get your hands on the game (I know I can't) here is an advice: Read some Battletech books while waiting to get the feel of the world and universe. Just yesterday I realised that Deat Legion saga starts a year before events of the game. So you basically build your company parallel to Greysons. Just imagine how coll it would be to meet them on the battlefield.
 

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That just shows that a new player, jumping into the game will be able to play. They won't be able to play well but they can have fun and won't be discouraged by not knowing how to do anything.

Cohh has shown that while he may not know the best way to play, he could still advance and get better even when he made mistakes.

So this game will appeal to new players or old salts, and won't drive new players away because of a steep learning curve.
Yeah, HBS, returning to the good old days of gaming, where the game was well made and had innate challenges, but didnt have gameplay such that you had to go to college to learn how to play it. All these 'Esports' type of games being made anymore, where they make it so convoluted, confusing, stupid and just down right complicated that you gotta do hours of homework, watch tons of film, die over and over again as you just TRY to eek your way to mediocrity. Only those who milk the best and game the game the best rise to be the best. Its annoying and does not make for very fun games. All of Wargaming's games, PuBG, Planetside 2, MWO, all those meta whore games........not that fun overall, to many annoying and aggravating features.

BT however, its just gunna be a good, solid, fun game. Tough in some spots, but easy to pick up and learn your way through. Not 'punishing' where you stand out of the 25% cover and get hit by a PPC, results in your mech exploding, or a single hit to the back results in your mech exploding and the pilot dying, ala WOWS and their 1 shot deletion citadel feature....