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Mighty_Joker

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I'm trying to choose between Utopia, or a few of the more recent EUIV expansions.

For a bit of context, EUIII, and latterly, IV, have been some of my favourite games of all time. For IV, I own all the expansions except Mare Nostrum, Rights of Man, El Dorado, Conquest of Paradise, and the new Mandate of Heaven.

On the one hand, I love the game, and am wondering if I bought the above expansions, how much better an experience it would make above and beyond what I've already got. I should say, I only really like to play the more historical approach, so I wouldn't use either the nation designer or the randomised new world.

On the other hand, I love sci-fi, and Stellaris was a gaming dream. However, I was somewhat disappointed with the lack of depth compared to the more established titles. I have bought all of the updates so far, and with Utopia now released, I am very tempted.

So: Option one is to further deepen EUIV to bring it to its current level and keep playing a series I love. Option two is to buy Utopia and expand on the current Stellaris experience. What I'm wondering is:

a) do the listed expansions above add enough to the game above what I've already got to make them worth considering?

b) is Utopia a significant improvement over the vanilla game?

On the whole, I would prefer Stellaris, simply because I love the sci-fi setting, but I'm going for depth really. Does Utopia do enough, or does Stellaris need a second or third major expansion?
 

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I love stellaris so much and i want to play it but in my opinion expand ur eu4 and save money for next sterallis uptade because it have some bugs need to be fixed :)

Im so sad becuase of missing the discount :(
 

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The ages in Mandate add a nice layer of complexity. I've already played a full game through; and not as an Eastern nation. Rights of Man is almost half the price and adds a decent amount of stuff. CoP is a bit expensive for features you'll use maybe once or twice (at least that's how it was for me). MN and ED are pretty feature light, but you could get them both for $14 in Steam US right now.

I haven't played Stellaris, but enslaving a species and eating them seems like some hysterical CK2 style antics.
 

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On the other hand, there is a bundle with both DLCs included... ;)