Which Purge type to use as a fanatic purifier?

[CassCD]

Honestly any of them except neutering, I can't imagine Fanatical Purifiers being patient enough to wait for a pop to die of old age.

You . . . don't understand. You have not seen. The faces filled with fear. Knowing that they're the last of their kind. Many seek to end their lives prematurely, but we will not allow it. To see the living suffer the Long Death . . . you have not experienced the thrill one gets knowing that they work for the benefit of our glorious race before they transpire. The slooooow suffocation . . . to exploit a sapient being for everything they are worth. It gives us strength. We are the masters of Death. And so it is that which we seek over all things living.

*maniacal, high-pitched laughter*

 

[SevenSerpents]

Understand... this... you are... food...

 

[Bobylein]

Couldn't there be "benevolent fanatical purifiers"?

Of course, those'll end your miserable xeno life in a swift way without forced labour or other methods that just make you suffer any longer.

You . . . don't understand. You have not seen. The faces filled with fear. Knowing that they're the last of their kind. Many seek to end their lives prematurely, but we will not allow it. To see the living suffer the Long Death . . . you have not experienced the thrill one gets knowing that they work for the benefit of our glorious race before they transpire. The slooooow suffocation . . . to exploit a sapient being for everything they are worth. It gives us strength. We are the masters of Death. And so it is that which we seek over all things living.

*maniacal, high-pitched laughter*

Holy shit... at times people on this forum here are as evil as those sadistic savages on the Rimworld forum

 

[The Founder]

Couldn't there be "benevolent fanatical purifiers"?

Not really? The idea that other intelligent species are a cosmic mistake isn't something that is well suited to benevolence.

Not Belevolent so much. Just patient. Playing the long game. The option of using the Pops as long as possible was mentioned. How better to feed the military that will conquer the galaxy?

You can still swap to extermination later, once you secured the galaxy.

 

[scaper12123]

I still am of the opinion that fanatical purifiers wouldn't necessarily be as insanely bold in their fanaticism as a lot of people think. To me, the fundamental requirement is that their goal is to purge all aliens without exception. To achieve such a thing doesn't necessarily require a mad dash to eliminate them, but taking all methods necessary to ensure a) they cannot continue to propagate, and b) they will not be making any sort of return.

With all that in mind, I feel a more pragmatically fanatical purifier race would neuter the aliens it gets control of so the alien scum can't retake the planets they lost once those species are purged. Over time the purifier race controlling them will get access to more effective means for controlling planets in their empire (i.e. lots of robots and terraforming), at which point those aliens will have outlived what little usefulness they had and the real purging can commence.

 

[Cuthuthulu]

Neutering, Castrations for everyone!

 

[DukeLeto42]

...can you eat the robots, too?

I really hope the processing setting for robots generates minerals. That would really make the system so wonderful.

 

[topekaguy1988]

My new favorite book is "To serve Man"

 

[Qoff]

 

[Rydelfox]

Not really? The idea that other intelligent species are a cosmic mistake isn't something that is well suited to benevolence.

Sure it is. The Xenos are a cosmic mistake and their lives are defined by suffering. We are here to ease that suffering and grant them the non-existence that they were always meant to have.

 

[The Founder]

Something new from Wiz Twitter might have a effect on this:
"In @StellarisGame 1.5 'Banks', Pops that are saved from slavery/purge by conquest of their planet will no longer be upset at said conquest."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5b4DUAWgAAtCaX.jpg
I asume this scales based on the severity of the purge and the severity of the new conditions (slave is better then being purged after all). Also purge is stopped during a occupation.

So you have to consider someone taking the planet while you are purging. And actually a patient purger could get happy Purgess by freeing them for Extermination towards Neutering.

I still am of the opinion that fanatical purifiers wouldn't necessarily be as insanely bold in their fanaticism as a lot of people think. To me, the fundamental requirement is that their goal is to purge all aliens without exception. To achieve such a thing doesn't necessarily require a mad dash to eliminate them, but taking all methods necessary to ensure a) they cannot continue to propagate, and b) they will not be making any sort of return.

With all that in mind, I feel a more pragmatically fanatical purifier race would neuter the aliens it gets control of so the alien scum can't retake the planets they lost once those species are purged. Over time the purifier race controlling them will get access to more effective means for controlling planets in their empire (i.e. lots of robots and terraforming), at which point those aliens will have outlived what little usefulness they had and the real purging can commence.

The Patient Purger cleanses the galaxy.
That is a lesson to be learned from the Necrons from Warhammer 40k.

 

[Mackus]

From optimal gameplay point of few, Purifiers should probably use processing, since they'll need the food to quickly fill newly emptied planets with their own species pops.
From roleplay point of view, any type could be used. Yes, even neutering. They want all xenos dead, but it's not they're not in rush, they're aware that conquering galaxy might take couple of centuries. Scouring of universe of xeno taint is long-term project. So they'll probably accept slower forms of disposal if it provides some good trade-offs. Neutering purges very slowly, but in the meantime those pops produce minerals that can be used to fund further wars.

 

[balmung60]

Depends on what you're playing.

If you're a xenophobic version of space Byzzies, neutering - after all, you've been doing it to everyone you could get your grubby hands on since 769, why stop now? This might also work if you're seeing your race as kinda lazy and really patient.

If you're actually looking to play fanatic purifiers as literally as possible, I'd say whichever option is fastest. Efficiency and foreign opinion don't matter, only the removal of alien life, and the sooner the better.

Labor camps and neutering don't really seem "fanatic" enough, though. They both keep the xenos around too long when they could have been gone years ago.

 

[Qoff]

Depends on what you're playing.

If you're a xenophobic version of space Byzzies, neutering - after all, you've been doing it to everyone you could get your grubby hands on since 769, why stop now? This might also work if you're seeing your race as kinda lazy and really patient.

If you're actually looking to play fanatic purifiers as literally as possible, I'd say whichever option is fastest. Efficiency and foreign opinion don't matter, only the removal of alien life, and the sooner the better.

Labor camps and neutering don't really seem "fanatic" enough, though. They both keep the xenos around too long when they could have been gone years ago.

 

[Rubidium]

Note that fanatic purifiers are so hostile to alien life that they won't even make trade agreements or sign alliances of convenience. These don't seem to be the patient, eye on the long view sort.

Letting the xenos live on worlds within the Empire for a second more than necessary? That's heresy. Kill them all, as fast as possible.

 

[The Founder]

Note that fanatic purifiers are so hostile to alien life that they won't even make trade agreements or sign alliances of convenience. These don't seem to be the patient, eye on the long view sort.

Letting the xenos live on worlds within the Empire for a second more than necessary? That's heresy. Kill them all, as fast as possible.

But only if you kill these Aliens slowly (for the time being) do you have a chance to kill all the other aliens. The societal mission might be clear, but the way towards it is up for rulre to decide.

If you want to make a Fanatic Purifier that get's into a good position using tradedeals, simply do not choose Fanatic Purifier from the get go. As far as I can tell, you could opt into the Civic at any time. Indeed I am hoping so. Going Fanatic Purifier would be well within reach for the Commonwealth of Man.

 

[vyshan]

obviously the only right answer is to devour them all.

 

[scaper12123]

The Patient Purger cleanses the galaxy.
That is a lesson to be learned from the Necrons from Warhammer 40k.

It's not so much patience as being a pragmatic villain. Something along the lines of the Sith in terms of personality, being so smugly sure of your superiority that you can take your merry sweet time killing off all the aliens because their death is inevitable anyway.

 

[Secret Master]

The entire point of POPs is to get work from them. Even your own.

So, working them will be my preferred method.

Unless I'm playing a vampire race, in which I will process them for, ummm, food.

 

[Alliegorical]

From orbit, with this swanky new "Armageddon" bombardment option purifiers get.