Which nations do you think should get their mission tree reworked? (This includes countries with the generic mission trees).

[Ludwig25]

I wanted the mission trees of Denmark, Norway, Sweden and the formable nation of Scandinavia to be reworked. And looks like we are getting that. If you have read the recent dev diary they have hinted at that.

But besides the Scandinavian nations I personally want the mission trees of Albania, Hanover, Persia, Trebizond and Theodoro to be reworked.

The Persian mission tree is small compared to others and also certain missions a locked if you are Zoroastrian and not shia. I think there should be a way to become Zoroastrian without forcing a rebellion and letting the rebels siege and convert your provinces so you could accept the rebels demands. Maybe there could be a decision for Persia and Persian group culture nations to convert to Zoroastrianism if they control a province that is Zoroastrian. And maybe there could also be a decision you could take as a Zoroastrian Persia to get a new Zoroastrian based mission tree.

The Albanian mission tree can focused on fighting the Ottomans and unifying the Balkans.

The Trebizontine mission tree can be focused on kicking the Ottomans out of Anatolia and taking back Constantinople.

Theodoro could have a mission tree where you have a choice between restoring the Byzantine empire after it falls to the Ottomans or abandoning the Roman influence and going back to Gothic roots. Maybe you could even have a decision that you could take as Theodore if you control a province in a Gemanic culture group called "Regermanize the Gothic culture" which will move Gothic from Byzantine culture group to the Germanic one. Similar to how you can sinosize the Vietnamese and Korean cultures. (This sounds unrealistic though)

 

[Blizzrd33]

Mamluks, just did an achievement run with them and was totally disappointed with the mission tree. The devs have made a lot of flavoured events for the Mamluks but sadly neglected the mission tree almost entirely.

 

[RMS Oceanic]

The Cradle of Civilization nations in general need a rethink of their missions. Only the Ottomans have an extensive one, and it's pretty bland ten patches later. But yes, Scandinavia first

 

[necro84]

@RMS Oceanic AQQ isn't that bad. Not every nation needs 30 missions and it's goal is to conquer Persia. Rest of the missions could be in common Persian tree. Mission tree could give one permanent modifier depending on what nations form Persia. AQQ can have cavalry combat or cavalry to infantry ratio, QQ something with religion because they start as Shia, Adrabil admin efficiency or CCR because it should be more rewarding, maybe something else for Ajam.

 

[pgroves]

Unique mission trees for Finland and Iceland would be very welcome too

 

[Nostalgium]

Persia needs a better one. Hisn Kayfa should get an expanded one. The Scandis should, but I feel like they will in the next expansion, so that's good. Mamluks have been mentioned, and as I've said before, I think all generic missions should be replaced with Region-specific ones. So you'd no longer have "Generic missions", but "German Missions", "Central Asian Missions", "Indian Missions", etc, focused on uniting their home region and thematic missions related to the region's culture and history, rather than generically expand, generically get two subjects, etc.

 

[moscal]

Mayans (minors and/or united), Aztec - very climatic civilizations, after reformation, havent nothing interesant to work.

Mazovia (as Poland focused on western world), Teutonic Order, Novgorodian (and east-slavic minors) - east Europe shouldnt be alternative "choice PLC or RUS" or "lesser fun after elimination main east european powers".

Poland, Turkey, Mamluks, Persia, Scandinavians - majors without deep or fun points.

 

[Traxium318]

One step at a time guys. I loved the Origins DLC and if the Escandinavian one is pretty similar I´ll be happy. After that it can come reworks, Middle East Update, South America... there is plenty of time and absolutely no hurry!

 

[iClipse]

It always struck me as weird how bland the Ottomans' mission tree is. It's the most played nation, the go-to nation for new player and....they get nothing interesting. In general, the Middle East, especially the big nations (Ottoman, Persia, Mamluks) could use some love.

Some smaller nations that could use something are Ardabil, Hisn Kayfa, maybe even Georgia.

And I want to say anything related to Scandinavia, but they'll probably get their fair share with the next update.

 

[Nostalgium]

It always struck me as weird how bland the Ottomans' mission tree is. It's the most played nation, the go-to nation for new player and....they get nothing interesting. In general, the Middle East, especially the big nations (Ottoman, Persia, Mamluks) could use some love.

Probs because it was one of the first to get them. A lot of the very early mission trees weren't all that exciting.

 

[Rainbow Mirage]

I take offense to the mention that generic mission tree need to be reworked. Don't touch/remove the high income mission. It is one of the few ways to reduce construction time. I like my fast and cheap manufactories.

 

[pgroves]

It always struck me as weird how bland the Ottomans' mission tree is. It's the most played nation, the go-to nation for new player and....they get nothing interesting. In general, the Middle East, especially the big nations (Ottoman, Persia, Mamluks) could use some love.

I have over 5,000 hours in the game and have never actually played the Ottomans (too easy)

Some smaller nations that could use something are Ardabil, Hisn Kayfa, maybe even Georgia.

Georgia would be nice

And I want to say anything related to Scandinavia, but they'll probably get their fair share with the next update.

Hope so, as long as they cover Finland and Iceland too and also provide some more unique unit models, especially for Norway

 

[agonistes]

Teutonic Order would be nice.

I'd rather see some effort put into Republic mechanics before worrying about Novgorod's tree.

Maybe some of the Hadriatic since Scandi is getting looked at? Lubeck and Hamburg?

 

[JaxElite]

Brunswick/Hanover.
I was really exited for them during emperor development, since the welfs used to rule then saxony (quite a lot more north west than eu4 saxony), bavaria and the palatinate, had close dynastic ties to northern italy and even were holy roman emperor once.

So i expected a Dynasty focused tree with diplomacy, taking over the hre and PUs within the HRE. Basically a northern german alt history version of austria.
Instead we got a simple conquest tree with a weird union cb on England/GB that isnt set up well and shouldn't be modeled by missions, but by events if at all.

 

[delusonalism_]

theodoro / trebizond would probably be fine getting a slightly altered byzantine mission tree

mesoamerica, baltic and middle east are the regions which probably deserve a touch up. out of those, id say mesoamerica is the least satisfying to play currently and where id like to see more flavour added. i do acknowledge however it is not a very popular area to play in.

the mission trees in origins with branching paths to reflect player agency were good. id like to see more of those given to other nations, including those who already have a lot of content and fleshed out mission trees.

 

[vaLor-]

A Theodoro gothic flavor pack in the same vein as byzantium could be amazing content.

 

[Josar]

Ottomans, and Byzantium could get updates to their mission trees, and we'll as giving the Anatolian beyliks some unique missions, maybe centered on forming Rum, which could have it's own mission tree.

 

[ArtFart]

Teutons, Riga, Livonia, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Persia, Muscovy (I know there is third rome, I have it, but in comparison to other nations, the tree is pretty meh)

 

[durbal]

All of them should get reworked to have no missions.