Which National Ideas should be changed?

[birincikalite]

Switch Hungary's +Coring Cost with...just about anything really. I just want to see the Ottomans occasionally threaten Vienna, not see them ignore Hungary because it's too expensive to core their lousy land.

Everyone who has +heretic tolerance, trade it out with +Religious Unity (or "negative tolerance gives no penalties"). Or better yet, get rid of that stupid event that makes heretic tolerance an actively bad thing. Also, Gujarati ideas should probably have either religious unity or heathen tolerance; it's a bit strange that they are practically the only Indian nation without it, despite being a Shiite state ruling over Hindus.

Manchu should get a bigger manpower boost, so they have an easier time conquering China.

I think keeping England without additional colonists is fine; other than the 13 colonies and a few islands, most of their empire consisted of things they conquered from other nations (either non-Western nations like most of India, or other colonial powers, like French Canada).

Agreed on Hungary.They are supposed to be conquered by Turks and Austrian, whoever succeeds but they aren't suppose to survive until 17th century then fall into an Austrian PU...
It'd be cool to see a Siege of Wien.

 

[wolfing]

Espionage. All other ideas are either beneficial for all countries (defensive, quality) or for some countries more than others (religion, quantity). But for as many countries I've played so far, not once have I thought "hmm.. Espionage would be good to have). I've taken it as one of the last options in some of my games to play around with it, and as expected, it was underwheming (and would have gone better with almost any other idea)

 

[Lwantssugar]

Another I'd think would be to get rid of the generic national ideas entirely and give at least each culture group it's own set, such as Russian minors, Italian minors, Arabic minors(think Syria, Iraq, other possible states in the Levant), Chinese ideas for the states that can be released from Ming, south east Asian ideas for Thai, Khemer, and East Indian states, and Subsaharan

 

[unmerged(779238)]

+1 on changing Hungary's +coring cost, conquering them as Ottomans is pointless (huge AE causing massive coalitions and huge coring costs, why should I?)

The Aztecs should also have some ideas on their own, there's an archivement so you are supposed to play them at least a few times but not only the first 100 years are hella boring, they also have generic ideas... horrible.

 

[Valkyrie-Lemons]

Another I'd think would be to get rid of the generic national ideas entirely and give at least each culture group it's own set, such as Russian minors, Italian minors, Arabic minors(think Syria, Iraq, other possible states in the Levant), Chinese ideas for the states that can be released from Ming, south east Asian ideas for Thai, Khemer, and East Indian states, and Subsaharan

Isn't that already the case? I know the minor Italian states have a unique set of ideas.

I haven't checked every nation, but I think most are placed into certain culture groups that share basic ideas (i.e. Italy Minors, Middle East, Colonial, Japanese etc.)

There's a full list [Here].

 

[Rubidium]

Isn't that already the case? I know the minor Italian states have a unique set of ideas.

I haven't checked every nation, but I think most are placed into certain culture groups that share basic ideas (i.e. Italy Minors, Middle East, Colonial, Japanese etc.)

There's a full list [Here].

Many are (especially compared to release), but there are still quite a few that use the generic idea set. Off the top of my head: the various Chinese revolters other than Ming/Qing/Manchu, Mesoamerican and South American (who don't get the native groups), most of Africa, most of Southeast Asia, the various Orthodox minors (plus Athens/Morea/Achaea/Naxos/Crete/Mazovia/Krakow, etc.), Navarre and various releasable nations (e.g. Wales).

There may be others that I'm forgetting, but that's still quite a few.

 

[Kansai-kun]

Many are (especially compared to release), but there are still quite a few that use the generic idea set. Off the top of my head: the various Chinese revolters other than Ming/Qing/Manchu, Mesoamerican and South American (who don't get the native groups), most of Africa, most of Southeast Asia, the various Orthodox minors (plus Athens/Morea/Achaea/Naxos/Crete/Mazovia/Krakow, etc.), Navarre and various releasable nations (e.g. Wales).

There may be others that I'm forgetting, but that's still quite a few.

What about the Balkans? It's kind of annoying that only Serbia and Ragusa have their own ideas.

 

[CelticMutt]

Not really if you are one of the few of us who bother with the curia for the extra diplomat and what not as opposed just taking their -40 idea cost and being done with it. I'm on the side of the curia lovers. But it should give you an alternative if you are protestant I would suppose (why would you ever go protestant though, unless you want to form Prussia?).

Better tax, cheaper ideas, not having to deal with the irritating click-fest of the Curia?

 

[quoms]

Many are (especially compared to release), but there are still quite a few that use the generic idea set. Off the top of my head: the various Chinese revolters other than Ming/Qing/Manchu, Mesoamerican and South American (who don't get the native groups), most of Africa, most of Southeast Asia, the various Orthodox minors (plus Athens/Morea/Achaea/Naxos/Crete/Mazovia/Krakow, etc.), Navarre and various releasable nations (e.g. Wales).

There may be others that I'm forgetting, but that's still quite a few.

French minors! They can get the plain French ideas for all I care but the stock NIs make starting out as a neighbor or vassal of the BBB doubly awful.

 

[Chengar Qordath]

IMO, every single NI that gives +Papal Influence needs to be replaced. I get that it's partly to help AI nations that historically stayed Catholic remain so, but it's a wasted idea as a player.

It would be nice if the +Papal Authority and +Legitimacy NIs had some sort of replacement option for when they no longer applied. Presumably something like +Religious Unity and +Republican Tradition.

On a vaguely related note, +Republican Tradition really ought to be a bit more common, and handed out a bit more rationally. It's rather silly that nations which start as monarchies and never had a republic in the EU time period get +RT (Irish ideas), while a nation with a thousand year-long republic that lasted for 95% of the EU time period (Venice) get no such bonus.

 

[dirtInfestor5]

Prussia needs 25-50% forcelimits-modifier to compete with France and Austria imo

 

[Pilot00]

Every form-able nation should get its own unique ideas and when its possible should change government. But since they are form-able the switch of ideas/government type should be made optionally via decision.

I also believe that the generic ideas should either be buffed or completely overhauled.