I'd love, if Brazil, Argentina, China, Finland, Yugoslavia, Romania and Hungary would get an own focus tree. What do you think?
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which minors should get an individual focus tree through dlc?
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Hungary went trough a very tough decision after ww 1 (Trianon) so I would like to a see a focus tree where Hungary tries to restore its old territories. 
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Everyone gets one!
Though I'd say Spain for the many options that the civil war brings; India since they could have a path to independence and become a powerhouse in the late game; Czechoslovakia and Poland since they are in the thick of it and are small yet relatively industrious in 36'.
Most of the others are either already firmly attached to one side. Don't have the means to make much of an impact outside their borders or are to peripheral and their involvement in the WW seems a bit of a reach.
Still all of them :3
Though I'd say Spain for the many options that the civil war brings; India since they could have a path to independence and become a powerhouse in the late game; Czechoslovakia and Poland since they are in the thick of it and are small yet relatively industrious in 36'.
Most of the others are either already firmly attached to one side. Don't have the means to make much of an impact outside their borders or are to peripheral and their involvement in the WW seems a bit of a reach.
Still all of them :3
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China almost certainly warrants its own focus tree, because it's a nation with real potential to become a major power, with a series of difficult to represent relationships with its semi-autonomous provincial warlords and governors (HOI3 making them independent countries REALLY didn't handle it well).
Hungary is a good case for its own focus because of the massive amounts of land and ethnic population lost after WWI to three of its four neighbors (technically, all four, because Austria was even given a tiny piece of it), caught between the threats of German and Soviet expansion and spheres of influence. It was faced with internal differences of opinion over whether to continue peaceful attempts at renegotiating the terms of Trianon (pushing for plebiscites to allow the populations of those regions to decide for themselves which country to be a part of) or preparing for a more active role as Europe began rearming for imminent war.
Romania, saddled with the menacing Soviets as a neighbor, and facing territorial claims by both Bulgaria and Hungary, yet no friends of Germany at the start, also has possibilities.
Both Brazil and Argentina could use some spicing up with a few of the events, issues, and conflicts of the region, to make the American side of the map a bit more entertaining.
While I consider Finland a somewhat interesting choice, because of its opposition to the Soviets, I'm not sure that warrants a unique focus tree. A regional variant used by all of the Scandinavian countries might be a more practical alternative than having individual ones, or using the generic one.
Poland would be a more critical nation for its own set of foci, since it was historically invaded by both the Germans and Soviets.
Yugoslavia's internal conflicts might make for an interesting experience, but its fractured condition really doesn't lend itself to anything outside the borders, and I'm not sure if a unique set of national focuses would be worthwhile. The most significant issues were the internal ethnic disputes threatening to divide the nation (Serbs trying to maintain political control over Croats, Slovenes, Macedonians, Albanians, and a handful of others, despite several terrorist groups supported by Soviet and Italian funding and training), and a large number of external claimants on pieces of it, with the need to maintain relations and guarantees by France and other countries to prevent invasion from potential enemies on several sides (Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria). Most of those situations could better be handled through the foci of those other countries, since YUG was more frequently on the receiving end of the policies and problems.
Hungary is a good case for its own focus because of the massive amounts of land and ethnic population lost after WWI to three of its four neighbors (technically, all four, because Austria was even given a tiny piece of it), caught between the threats of German and Soviet expansion and spheres of influence. It was faced with internal differences of opinion over whether to continue peaceful attempts at renegotiating the terms of Trianon (pushing for plebiscites to allow the populations of those regions to decide for themselves which country to be a part of) or preparing for a more active role as Europe began rearming for imminent war.
Romania, saddled with the menacing Soviets as a neighbor, and facing territorial claims by both Bulgaria and Hungary, yet no friends of Germany at the start, also has possibilities.
Both Brazil and Argentina could use some spicing up with a few of the events, issues, and conflicts of the region, to make the American side of the map a bit more entertaining.
While I consider Finland a somewhat interesting choice, because of its opposition to the Soviets, I'm not sure that warrants a unique focus tree. A regional variant used by all of the Scandinavian countries might be a more practical alternative than having individual ones, or using the generic one.
Poland would be a more critical nation for its own set of foci, since it was historically invaded by both the Germans and Soviets.
Yugoslavia's internal conflicts might make for an interesting experience, but its fractured condition really doesn't lend itself to anything outside the borders, and I'm not sure if a unique set of national focuses would be worthwhile. The most significant issues were the internal ethnic disputes threatening to divide the nation (Serbs trying to maintain political control over Croats, Slovenes, Macedonians, Albanians, and a handful of others, despite several terrorist groups supported by Soviet and Italian funding and training), and a large number of external claimants on pieces of it, with the need to maintain relations and guarantees by France and other countries to prevent invasion from potential enemies on several sides (Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria). Most of those situations could better be handled through the foci of those other countries, since YUG was more frequently on the receiving end of the policies and problems.
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One of the countries that gets overlooked a lot in these but I find interesting is Canada.
Canada had a large amount of industrial production for its size, had lots of men under uniform and ended the war with one of the largest fleets in the world at the conclusion of the war, though it maintained it only briefly. Given its contribution to the allies on both land and sea I think Canada should be one of the top contenders, especially considering the size of its mobilization compared to pre-war strength figures.
Canada had a large amount of industrial production for its size, had lots of men under uniform and ended the war with one of the largest fleets in the world at the conclusion of the war, though it maintained it only briefly. Given its contribution to the allies on both land and sea I think Canada should be one of the top contenders, especially considering the size of its mobilization compared to pre-war strength figures.
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I'm not saying anything about what will and will not be in HOI4 expansions (because it's not up to me) but the difference between EU4 ideas and HOI4 focus trees is massive. The latter takes far more work and has a much bigger impact on the game.
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I would say Turkey,Hungary,Bulgaria,Romania,China,Yugoslavia,Spain,Finland and Sweden
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Here is how I'd break it down if i was doing it in packages. South American states, Fenno-Scandinavia (Plus Belgium and Netherlands maybe) the Balkans and Chinese warlords.
Poland and Czechoslovakia don't fit in any so...just whack 'em together
Edit: Don't forget the British commonwealth too! That'd be quite a few NF's on its own.
Poland and Czechoslovakia don't fit in any so...just whack 'em together
Edit: Don't forget the British commonwealth too! That'd be quite a few NF's on its own.
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Irish Free State DLC!
Giving back the Treaty Ports were what Churchill called the greatest mistake pre-war. If they had those Naval bases, the UK would have won the Atlantic battle sooner.
Giving back the Treaty Ports were what Churchill called the greatest mistake pre-war. If they had those Naval bases, the UK would have won the Atlantic battle sooner.
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If the alt history concept works, Poland should get a DLC. They were pretty strong in terms of resources it's just their location meant they didn't have any time.
God no.
God no.
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With warlords etc being a thing, I can't really imagine China not having its own focus tree at this point in the base game, it is the nation that neither fits the major/minor nation tag really.
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This seems like a good place to start. Rather than trying to make individual ones for every nation that was important, but perhaps was knocked out by 1940, get enough flavor by grouping them into logical pairings. Maybe slight changes for each one therein, but save the effort until we all get in there and see what happens. I assume China will have its own set of trees, as I believe that somewhere they mentioned that there would be Chinese specific mechanics due its unique situation. Hopefully in time we will get to the point that each part of the world has its own set of focuses, with maybe 4-5 nations using each set. The trick is going to be balancing all of these - say if the MENA countries have focuses on finding oil, how does that affect the balance later in the game.
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The minors I absolutely believe need their own focus trees is Spain, China, Turkey, Brazil, Hungary, and Commonwealth nations.
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All of them, but I hope not as seventy different packages, and not for 10 Euro for each one.
And I wish to work them all, especially after new patches/exspansions ,or in multiplayer...
Firstly this "bigger" majors", which can expand in some way. Not like Luxemburg, San Marino, or Haiti
And I wish to work them all, especially after new patches/exspansions ,or in multiplayer...
Firstly this "bigger" majors", which can expand in some way. Not like Luxemburg, San Marino, or Haiti
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