Which is better Victoria 2 or Europa Universalis 3?

[Veshster]

Coming from a old Victoria 2 player,i wanting to try start playing Europa Universals 3. Out of curiosity whats the difference between this 2, as in the game mechanic. which is more fun vic 2 or EU3?? The fun thing about EU3 that vic2 dose not offer ?

 

[El Jojo]

The political and industrial management are specific to Victoria : choosing your industry, dealing with prestige so you can buy products, pop manipulation to get more of a certain kind (clergymen, craftsmen etc.) or to get a specific political party in power.

EU goes on a longer timeframe so you have more long-term thinking and you can really shift your country in different ways, while I felt more constrained in Victoria 2 (which is good because that's coherent!).

 

[Planck]

Flexibility. As El Jojo above said, V2 has more focus on internal country development. However, EU3's map has many more countries (including lots of small provinces), prospects for colonisation, etc. You can get a small one province minor nation in EU3 and transform it in a big blob to rival France, while in V2 this is not likely without resorting to gamey tactics and infamy wars.

However the longer time frame of EU3 is, in my opinion, not necessarily a huge advantage. At least in my experience, I often spend a lot of time in V2 checking my POPs and industries, so I run in a lower speed and constantly pause. In EU3 depending on the country you play, there are long periods of time - sometimes years - when nothing much happens and a century goes by really fast while you wait for your infamy to decrease or your stability to rise.

In any case, they're two different games - both good. If you care about content, EU3 with all expansions is definitely more polished and offers many more things to do than V2 at this point.

 

[thesodality]

EU offers more potential for military expansion and empire building. Vicky is more focused on internal development. Both are great as I often find myself switching back and forth between the two depending on my mood.

 

[unmerged(205402)]

I better like EU3 with all addons. Because this era was time than my country had way to glory. In Victoria 2 he is just past.

 

[unmerged(342601)]

Yea, what was basicly said above, EU offers more ways to expand, Victoria is much more in-depth.

 

[NezzeOne]

The games are both pretty different. Vicky 2 has a more in-depth political and diplomatic system, as well as more detailed ways to finance and shape your nation. EU3 is good for murdering things and expanding in general.

IMO, they're both -amazing- games that can kill hundreds of hours of your spare time.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

Not agree, in EUIII you also can gain power without expanding.

 

[ssfsx17]

EU3 doesn't crash nearly as often, so my vote goes to EU3.

 

[TacticalRetreat]

I love EUIII, haven't played VickyII a whole lot yet. It just seems awfully complex. I'm glad I have the hang of EU right now...

 

[xcrissxcrossx]

EU 3 is more fun. It takes less micromanaging than Victoria 2 and you actually have to manage your economy!

 

[unmerged(179469)]

Both games are very good but very different.

That said, Vicky:R is much better than Victoria 2. And personally I get a much stronger sense of achievement out of becoming #1 in Vicky than in EU3. The EU3 building and trade systems seem very gimmicky, and all that leaves is territorial expansion; EU3 also feels far easier than Vicky, even on Very Hard.

 

[Nefaro]

I love Vic2 and give it the most favorable game mechanics award, but EU3 covers such a huge period of time and is a lot more open as to what you can do with any one country, including more aggressive conquest and more colonization. So they each have their own style, certainly.

I'm currently doing some EU3 since the 5.1 official came out awhile back (and some Sengoku of course), but once the latest Vic2 update is finished up then it'll definitely get much more time from me.

 

[Inem]

I really like both, but I think Vicky 2 needs a mod to be playable, its just painful without it. I personally loved pop demand mod, helped people change classes and things better, also like the new factories. Eu3 I feel is definitely playable on its own (with 4 expansions). Right now I would say EU3 is better, but probably just more refined

 

[gela1212]

EU3 let's you play on July 4th, 1776. 'nough said.

[/patriotism]

I never got into Vicky2. You just don't really do anything. It's a game of waiting and looking at statistics that you can't really do anything to change for a pretty long time. I've yet to finish a game in it.

EU3, on the other hand, involves much more active participation. You look at stuff and you *do* something about it, and even if you can't right then, you'll be able to within ~10 years. In addition, there's so many ways to craft your nation.

Of course, you might have wanted to post this topic in Paradox General discussion.. putting it in the Europa Universalis III forum might give you slightly biased answers.

 

[flame7926]

I like v2 way better than eu3. eu3 your pretty much just waiting for next war, not really doing anything, clicking an answer on events. In v2, you can watch the world, watch wars going on, and manage your economy and politics. It just is more engaging.

 

[spyroware1]

Both games have an awful lot of flaws, but in EU3 it takes longer till said flaws show up and your game becomes boring/unplayable/unsatisifying. In V2 you hit that plateau too early in comparison. That being said, V2 is much more elegant in how it deals with concepts that more or less where introduced during the EU3 product cycle. So it might feel like a downgrade to go to EU3 from V2.

 

[gela1212]

In v2, you can watch the world, watch wars going on, and manage your economy and politics. It just is more engaging.

You can't watch wars in EU3? Enlighten me.

Economy and politics I agree with, but that's mainly because the time period had pretty much no economic or political variation.

 

[flame7926]

there is no wars screen, so you cant see as well how its going as well,

 

[gela1212]

there is no wars screen, so you cant see as well how its going as well,

Actually, there is. It's in the ledger.