Which DLCs to play as a pirate?

[sekelsenmat]

Hello,

I'd expect that at the very least the Steam page where they sell stuff is updated, but: https://store.steampowered.com/app/827240/Expansion__Europa_Universalis_IV_Dharma/

"Unlock reforms that will define how you govern your kingdom or republic, earning free policies and boosting the power of some estates."

Well, I don't have Dharma but I'm pretty sure I have government reforms.

So this creates massive confusion: What exactly is unlocked by each DLC?

My specific question was that I was hoping for playing as a pirate in the Barbary Coast, so I thought Mare Nostrum:

Expansion - Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum on Steam

Mare Nostrum introduces new systems connected to naval warfare and control of trade. The power of your fleets will depend on the number of sailors your nation can gather, and your ships can now be given missions and areas to patrol. There are also new options for creating trade leagues, and a...

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But it seems Privateers are unlocked by https://store.steampowered.com/app/279620/Expansion__Europa_Universalis_IV_Wealth_of_Nations/ ?

"Dare to hire privateers that will steal trade from your competitors by leaching trade into a pirate nation. But if you do, know that this will increase the risk of war since your competitors will have a just cause for war."

So you need both DLCs to be a pirate?

 

[Interamna]

You need Golden Century in order to play as a Pirate Republic

Pirate missions - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki

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Golden Century - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki

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[Latheloi]

Actually, despite those descriptions, it is Golden Century to play as pirates.

The government reforms system is I think base, now, but Dharma has some country/region specific reforms.
And the Mare Nostrum "privateers" reference is a mission that you can send light ships on. Those missions would be pretty vital for playing as a pirate nation I expect.

 

[Romanix90]

Well specific DLC to play pirates is Golden Century, although Mare Nostrum would grant you certain naval abilities. Keep in mind that Government Reforms is now integrated into Base Game so you don't need Dharma. I personaly waited for discount to get both GC and Dharma.

 

[Thorfindel]

Golden Century is enough to play a pirate game. It also gives you access to the Privateer fleet mission, as described here https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Naval_warfare#Privateering. Other fleet missions are still locked behind El Dorado or Mare Nostrom, mostly.

 

[sekelsenmat]

Thanks, now I see that on the specific mechanics pages which can see which DLC is required for each mechanic.

Originally I was thinking of getting "Mare Nostrum", and it seems that it unlocks most pirate stuff

Naval warfare - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki

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https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Naval_warfare#Privateering

I would only miss on pirate republic stuff? But if I don't care about the pirate government then I'm fine with only Mare Nostrum I guess?

 

[wobarch]

but to play as a "real" pirate nation and have the events and stuff its GC (and that is the only good thing about this DLC )

 

[withche.07]

These are all playable pirate events if you own dlc.

Piratical events - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki

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I think best pirate nations to play are:
independent (very easy) Palembang
half dependent/daimyo (easy) So
dependent, you need to release and needs some work to be independent (medium) Cornwall, Rügen
you need to spend some amount effort and wait but enjoyable cause of special ideas (hard) New Providence, Sale