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liamgamer55

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Wished the HRE could do it, by the way.
It can, you just take the byzantine title and convert all the provinces and all vassals to Catholicism. Then go around hunting down each county of orthodoxy.
 

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Well, Dynasty Shields Pack should be in the base game, as it's a historical strategy. Out of all DLCs, the only one I'd consider buying is LoR, for retinues.

As for mods, I recommend CK2+ or AGOT.
 

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Spending money on DLC is done to get more content and to support future content. Since nothing is essencial in a/this game, you just buy whats within the budget and what appealing. I love every single one: the music is wonderful, the icons, the portrets, the Astecs, the moslims and byzanthium. But them again, if money is an issue, only buy whats involved in you next campaign. No need to buy russian music when you wont be playing an orthodox country anyday soon. No need to buy the Rome dlc if you're not playing the basileus. Pick a ruler for your next campaing, and go see what dlc is available for it.
 

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Well, you do still retain your dynasty name and the Coat of Arms you designed for it, which is the main point, as well as having a good chance of being able to select some decent breeding/educating material. I've reaped the benefits of that alone for 100 years at least.
 

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I would go to it like this:

1) Legacy of Rome
Retinues are awesome and they change the gameplay quit a bit no matter where you are.

2) Sword of Islam
If you want to play as a muslim or play somewhere close to muslims where you might end up converting.

3) Ruler Designer
If you want to mesh with history. You can do some pretty nifty things with it. Look at the timetraveling hitler aar for an example.

4) Sunset Invasion
When you have 200+ hours of gameplay and want something to shit up your games.
 

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That means to play with retinues i need the Rome DLC, but if I don't want to play muslim I don't need Sword of Islam? I always hated the need to put down all those little revolutions everywhere in my realm... by micromanaging levies.... is that countered with the retinues?
The little vassal rebellions were changed in the patch which came out at the same time as Legacy of Rome which introduced factions. Although this is part of the patch not the DLC so no need to pay for it.

I would say that Legacy of Rome makes the least changes, I only bought it because it was on sale for 99p and I'm still not entirely sure it was worth it. The ability to blind and castrate people is pretty funny though. Especially when your blind monarch gets the too many books event.

sword of Islam is in my opinion essential and absolutely worth it if you are looking for different types of game play.

The Republic DLC is coming out in a couple of weeks that also looks like it will change a lot and offer completely knew ways to play the game.
 

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Don't forget also, that if you like the new content that came in the patch that came at the same time as the dlc (e.g. 1.07 for LOR) it's worth buying it simply because it's the dlc sales that pay for the patches. Even though you don't have to it's still a nice thing to do.
 

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Gamersgate and steam tend to have similar pricing, things just go on sale at different times. Just wait for a bit and you'll find it on sale soon, or pay for the luxury of having it now.
 

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I would rank them like this:

Ruler Designer:
I like being able to make my own dynasty named after myself, or whoever I want, so this is a fun addition. I just wish we were allowed to use it on more than one ruler in a game, and I also wish it could be used while loading saved games in case I decide to switch and play a different nation mid-game.

Music/Portrait DLCs:
Get what you want based on budget and how much you think the game is worth. These have no real effect on gameplay but at least you get to see and appreciate them no matter who you are playing. (Actually the music ones might be region/religion dependant.)

Sunset Invasion:
If you don't like the idea of being invaded by Aztecs, then skip this one, but as far as I'm concerned this one is the most enjoyable because it actually has a pretty real impact no matter who you are playing (especially so if you are actually playing a crusader state).

Sword of Islam:
This one will have no effect on your game whatsoever unless you actually want to play a muslim. If you do not want to play a muslim, there is no reason to get this, except to avoid accidental game-overs when your heir or yourself accidentally becomes muslim. It could happen.

Legacy of Rome:
This one is even worse than sword of Islam. Many of the additions won't affect you at all unless you're playing specifically the Byzantine Empire. The one major feature that does affect every nation is Retinues, which I believe to be the worst addition to the game so far, considering it completely demolishes any semblance of balance the game had before.
 

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Legacy of Rome:
This one is even worse than sword of Islam. Many of the additions won't affect you at all unless you're playing specifically the Byzantine Empire. The one major feature that does affect every nation is Retinues, which I believe to be the worst addition to the game so far, considering it completely demolishes any semblance of balance the game had before.

Argh. I'm sorry if I appear to be a contrarian, certainly don't want to undermine the advice you're kindly giving to someone else. However, I'd like to offer a different view of the retinues as I quite welcomed them. Normally, a mediaeval prince or lord would keep a household troop; it was a matter of honour, prestige, sometimes they were necessary. You needed a rapid response force to deal with brigands, intercept smaller enemies, put down or discourage rebellions. The game doesn't flesh them out much but they have their place and I really was missing something from the game. It's really close to my heart to have a permanent druzhina as a Polish ruler, while on the other hand a French monarch should have a small forest of lances accompanying his movements. There are probably ways to rely on them and forego the levies for some conflicts when playing someone big but then, if you play as someone large and rich, then you can certainly afford to rely on demesne levies and/or mercenaries and avoid ticking off your potentially disgruntled vassals.

You could probably even get levy sizes to the minimum on the laws screen to keep folks happy, non-rebelling, non-plotting and tax-paying (levy down tax up, net result being indifferent nobles, while you can afford hiring more mercs and fewer levies) but if you do manage to set it up in a working way, then you deserve to reap the rewards.