Which country in game gets the best technology bonuses?

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Ive been really interested for a while now in trying to come up with a technocracy strategy for SP games. I was curious if anyone knew what countries where best to try to do this with, or if anyone knew what is the earliest actual possible time you can get Jets or Modern Battle tanks.

before its mentioned, i am aware of the spy exploit thats been actively discussed recently on the forums here, and can confirm that if done right you can use it to get through the industry tab very quickly however if you dont have great spys you will need to reroll them. but too much of that results in time lost.

any info would be helpful, as my goal here is to try and figure out the fastest way through the tech tree.
 

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In terms of general research, I think UK (from colonial elite and commonwealth tech sharing) and US+NZ (have infinite research slots) have the largest advantages. If you wanna rush tanks you can get modern tanks as Germany in ~1940/41.
 

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Ive been really interested for a while now in trying to come up with a technocracy strategy for SP games. I was curious if anyone knew what countries where best to try to do this with, or if anyone knew what is the earliest actual possible time you can get Jets or Modern Battle tanks.
Generally there's no such thing since they changed research speed formula and now research speed is simply [sort of] deduced from AoT penalties. x0.1-0.2 bonuses (hell, even 1.0 from focuses) mean little when you face penalties of x8.0-16.0 range (being 4-8 years ahead).

For Jets of generic minors:
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So provided you rush, Jet Fighers II generally arrive in March - August '45; or alternatively you can get Jet Strategic Bombers around September '44, skipping Jets I and applying Rocketry bonus to the engines instead.
 
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The UK starts with the commonwealth research sharing, and it adds up over time. New Zealand can get to 7 research slots and the US to 6 if I'm not mistaken. With the Modern Tanks as Germany if you rush the Soviet Tank Treaty and use the ability to save 30 research days by swapping research slots as well as just hard rushing from day 1, you'd be surprised how fast you can get really good tanks.
 

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The UK starts with the commonwealth research sharing, and it adds up over time. New Zealand can get to 7 research slots and the US to 6 if I'm not mistaken. With the Modern Tanks as Germany if you rush the Soviet Tank Treaty and use the ability to save 30 research days by swapping research slots as well as just hard rushing from day 1, you'd be surprised how fast you can get really good tanks.
no,no i say how have modern tank with german reich in 1940/41. Precisally what you say "change slot"?
 

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One of my favorites is Non-Aligned UK.
- Rush the colonial Elite
- Save up PP and give exile to the German and Italian scientists
- Go free trade for that extra speed.

You can only maintain the free trade until mid-game though, unless you are going with super, super cheesy strats.
Like deleting your heavy ships and declaring on the USA on day one.
Bring those colonials back in line I say!
 

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no,no i say how have modern tank with german reich in 1940/41. Precisally what you say "change slot"?
You can have an empty research slot build up 30 days of research and then you can swap that slot to your tank research, increasing your total days invested by 30, you can do this once per research I believe which ends up saving 120 days of research if you go the medium tank route, might be faster if you go heavies, I havent tested that.
 

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You can have an empty research slot build up 30 days of research and then you can swap that slot to your tank research, increasing your total days invested by 30, you can do this once per research I believe which ends up saving 120 days of research if you go the medium tank route, might be faster if you go heavies, I havent tested that.
Technically, it should save you less than that since each 30 days invested that way are subject to appropriate AoT penalty. I've done enough Jet research recently to be sure of that :)
 

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Germany easily gets the best Tech Bonuses. Followed by the UK.

Multiple Ahead of Time Bonuses for Tech. but most important of all is the placement on the focus tree allowing you to chain bonuses just as the bonus from the previous one.