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original idea of: Josquius

i know Ottoman Empire gets 4 cultures (in Mad King james campaign it gets even more).
ok, here is a condition, they must have three or more. (or do you want "more" only? )
so the list is:

-Ottoman Empire 4
-Austria 4 (5 with the Dutch Rebellion)
-Navarra 4 (3, +1 if you transform into France and have the Dutch Revolt)
-The Knights 4 (starts with 2, +2 from events)
-Venice 3
-Bohemia 3
-Timurids 3
-Byzantium 3
-England 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event)
-China 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event)
-Sweden 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event)
-Novgorod 3 (starts with 2, +1 if you transform into Russia, only Russia get the "The Russian Orthodox Church declared independent of Constantinople")
-Brittany 3 (2, +1 if you transform into France and have the Dutch Revolt)


anymore?
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Summary by Quizzical:
The complete list of countries that start with multiple cultures at the start of the grand campaign:

Four:
Austria (Czech, German, Magyar, Slovak)
Ottoman Empire (Arabic, Greek, Slavonic, Turkish)

Three:
Bohemia (Czech, German, Slovak)
Byzantium (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)
Granada (Arabic, Berber, Iberian)
Navarra (Basque, French, Iberian)
Venice (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)

Two:
Ak Kayanlu (Kurdish, Turkish)
Algiers (Arabic, Berber)
Aragon (Iberian, Italian)
Brittany (French, Gaelic)
Burgandy (Dutch, French)
China (Cantonese, Han)
Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!]
England (Anglosaxon, French)
Hungary (Magyar, Slovak)
Lorraine (French, German)
Manchu (Han, Manchu)
Novgorod (Russian, Ugric)
Pommern (German, Polish)
Savoy (French, Italian)
Sibir (Altai, Mongol)
Sweden (Scandinavian, Ugric)
The Knights (French, Italian)
Timurid Empire (Afghani, Mongol)

Some cultures are, of course, more useful than others. The most common cultures are:

Altai (75, mostly uncolonized)
Arabic (36)
German (34)
Mongol (28)
French (27)

The rarest cultures are:
Albanian (1)
Armenian (1)
Canary (1)
Maltese (1)
Syrian (1)
Aka (2)
Georgian (2)
Hawaiian (2)
Korean (2)
Kurdish (2)
Sikh (2)
Swiss (2)
Slovak (2)
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Originally posted by DarthMaur:
Manpower of biggest euro cultures:
-German 150
-French 139
-Russian 121
-Italian 92
-Iberian 89
This doesn't include provincial culture changes (Bearn, Sudeten, Granada, Gibraltar)
-Anglosaxon (wales included) 50
-Gaelic 43
-Scandinavian 45
-Ruthenian 40
-Polish 29
-Lithuanian 29
-Slavonic 27
-Dutch 30
-Magyar 16
-Czech 12
-Romanian is 12

All this doesn't take population modifiers into account. Thus, Scandinavia manpower, as Ireland, is smaller in game a bit, unless someone brings those cities population up by colonizing.
 
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I think England can end up with 4.
 

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England starts with Anglosacon and Franch, gets Dutch and Gaelic later thru events.
 

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Gaelic comes from the Act of Union in 1700.
Timurids/Mughals get Mongol, Afghani, Hindi

Venice has Italian, Slavonic, Greek
 

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Novgorod: russian, Ugric and can get Greek through an event
 

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The complete list of countries that start with multiple cultures at the start of the grand campaign:

Four:
Austria (Czech, German, Magyar, Slovak)
Ottoman Empire (Arabic, Greek, Slavonic, Turkish)

Three:
Bohemia (Czech, German, Slovak)
Byzantium (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)
Granada (Arabic, Berber, Iberian)
Navarra (Basque, French, Iberian)
Venice (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)

Two:
Ak Kayanlu (Kurdish, Turkish)
Algiers (Arabic, Berber)
Aragon (Iberian, Italian)
Brittany (French, Gaelic)
Burgandy (Dutch, French)
China (Cantonese, Han)
Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!]
England (Anglosaxon, French)
Hungary (Magyar, Slovak)
Lorraine (French, German)
Manchu (Han, Manchu)
Novgorod (Russian, Ugric)
Pommern (German, Polish)
Savoy (French, Italian)
Sibir (Altai, Mongol)
Sweden (Scandinavian, Ugric)
The Knights (French, Italian)
Timurid Empire (Afghani, Mongol)

Some cultures are, of course, more useful than others. The most common cultures are:

Altai (75, mostly uncolonized)
Arabic (36)
German (34)
Mongol (28)
French (27)

The rarest cultures are:
Albanian (1)
Armenian (1)
Canary (1)
Maltese (1)
Syrian (1)
Aka (2)
Georgian (2)
Hawaiian (2)
Korean (2)
Kurdish (2)
Sikh (2)
Swiss (2)
 

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LOL I think of canary men....

So Austria is best for gc culture wise then (europe is more interesting then mid east)

Duchy of Athens has French to do with some messed up thing with its rulers or something.


Where is altai at?
 

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Originally posted by Josquius
LOL I think of canary men....

yeah: dogmen!

canary is from canis: latin for dog
 

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Originally posted by Quizzical

Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!]

Because during crusades Greece was under French rule, and if I'm not wrong the Ducky of Athens was ruled by frenchman, so is because of this that there's also french as culture.
 

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Originally posted by Josquius

Where is altai at?

siberian corridor and russian steppes i think
 

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As someone born in the Canaries i wonder what the canary culture is. In fact i was quite surprised when i saw it. We have many cultural diferences with other Spanish, but for sure not more than Portuguese or South American people, who are given iberian culture. Is perhaps all of this related to a love affair with canarian girls of some of the paradox guys? ;)
And about the thread, when England get the Dutch culture?