This is one of those pointless questions that only serves to incite bitter arguments. It's like asking "Why did the Allies win?" The only reasonable answer you can give is "Because the Axis lost."
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This is one of those pointless questions that only serves to incite bitter arguments. It's like asking "Why did the Allies win?" The only reasonable answer you can give is "Because the Axis lost."
Are you kidding me? A minor role? Are you joking? Americans supplied the Russians with Tanks, Ammo, Guns, Planes, Oil, 500k Studebaker Trucks, Jeeps, an entire Military telecommunications system, Food, and Clothes. They also sent Tanks post-Stalingrad. Saying they played a minor role ridiculous. There's evidence that Soviet Archives covered the extent of Lend-Lease they received because they thought it would hurt morale. The Americans played a MAJOR role. Stalin was begging Britain and America for Lend-Lease. I honestly want to know what you're smoking.
You're right, I was mostly responding to the silly people on this thread. It's a little surprising to see that people's views of the Soviet contribution are diminishing, not the other way around. Well, except in Russia of course.Yeah you may want to read my post again.
I think if you (and others who posted) just take a second to read it over again you may find your discussions changing![]()
Was Chinese history teacher at all affiliated with Chinese government? Because what he said about the US sounds like pure propaganda. For example, he conveniently left out the US oil and steel embargoes, US lend-lease to China, the almost single-handed annihilation of the Japanese navy and...oh yes, the atomic bombs.Chinese history teacher taught me this:
USSR did the most. The war cant be won 100% without USSR.
UK did a lot, if UK didn't resist German force. the war will be 80% lost.
China also did a lot, being a sand bag of Japan, so Japan couldn't invade USSR.
If China surrendered day to Japan like France in day1, USSR will lose 2 front war 99%. WWII without USSR = 100% lose.
USA however, was more of a joke. Japan couldn't invade China and Asia If USA didn't export 90% of all oils/steal comsumed in Japan.
Japanese coudln't even run/build their fleet and jets if the US didn't support them.
I don't know if my old teacher is right or not, but it is hard to believe that western ppl actually think USA contributed anything important.
USA helped Japan built up their army. Even during the first half of the war.
If USA didn't exist, Japan would have problems to deal with China alone. The US traded as much supplies to Japan as the Alies.
Shell deficit might have something to do with the amount of tubes per km of front. Soviet Union had as many artillerymen as infantry in 1945. Germany didn't have this kind of resources at any point in the war.Soviet manpower was at it's limit in 1945. If you give the Axis all the tanks, artillery and trucks from the western front and give them air superiority then a Soviet defeat is not just possible but probable. The Axis has more economic resources in this situation.
Dont just look at the number of tanks built and conclude that Soviet industry was bigger. Consider for instance the relative Soviet deficit in artillery shells.
Shell deficit might have something to do with the amount of tubes per km of front. Soviet Union had as many artillerymen as infantry in 1945. Germany didn't have this kind of resources at any point in the war.
I cannot believe that you can be able to say that US or UK have contributed more ; the life of a human being is priceless.
Contribute the most what?
Time in conflict? That would be the UK. In on day 1
I found it interesting. Fairly interesting how opinions change over the years and for different generations.
Seriously USA wins ?? They didnt do much in europe at all, in Pacific, yes they crushed the Japanese almost on their own, but in Europe they played minor role.
helping US to clear Japanese.
I honestly want to know what you're smoking.
Suffering? Both the SU and Poland suffered horrifically under Nazi occupation.
I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of "which country did most during WW2"
However, I can definitely say which country did the LEAST. The award for worst ally certainly goes to... Bulgaria.
It seems incredible that trucks, rifles or cans of sardines are compared with a person. With that made clear who it was the main contributor in WWII.