Which all-out strategies will you try?

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I'm a megalomaniac first and foremost when it to HoI.
This thread is about collecting ideas for "all-out x with nation y" approaches with the x standing for the type of construction you have in mind.

I'll start with an example:
"All-out U-Boats with Germany"
In Darkest Hour I successfully employed the strategy of starving Britain into defeat with an almighty U-Boat fleet by 1941/42. I had about 500 U-Boats (don't remember how many flotillas that translates into, the number is from the ledger). Historically Doenitz deemed 300 U-Boats necessary. I'd say that starving Britain with 500 U-Boats is quite realistic if you have them way before the US-entry that is.
For HoI 4 I will try a similar strategy. The new distinction between naval and non-naval IC will make it necessary to first invest heavily in expansion of the dockyards, then mass production combined with tech-rushing of submarines.
The goal is to beat Poland and France with less land units than historically because of the early IC-diversion into dockyard-expansion and the later resource-diversion towards submarines.
The U-boat force will have to be available in numbers by 1939 to immediately pack a punch to cripple Britain before the US can come to their defence.
The strategy will be extremely risky because Fall Weiß and Gelb might fail and render the U-Boat menace moot.

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"All-out carpet bombing with UK"
Land warfare will be purely defensive. Shift some troops to El-Alamein in 1936 and fortify it, garrison the Suez ports. That's basically everything. Now focus entirely on strategic bombing (ministers, tech and doctrines) and build a massive strategic bomber force. The key will be to have long-range escorts early. Once the war breaks out, hit Germany in full-force to cripple her IC from the get-go. Maybe it will even be enough to prevent Germany from beating France. Turn Fall Gelb into a WW1-style battle of attrition which Germany can't win.
 

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Do you by any chance know whether it is possible to convert between military and civilian IC early game? Because that seems like it would open up lots more fun options like playing as German and converting all your military factories to civilian factories and then trying to beat the soviets starting in like 42 or 43 by basing your units along a small front and using mobile divisions and air power operating from strong prepared fortifications to win by attrition. That would require switching to get more industry for more industry intensive mechanized forces and all the fortifications.
 

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I think Strategic bombing is better because it's something you will be able to use against all countries. U-Boats are uselss against the USSR for example.
 

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I suppose I'll start out by checking how badly I can abuse the recruitment laws; How will the war go if I scrape the barrel and pump out a thousand infantry divisions at the start of the game?(most likely using China or USSR for extra giggles)
What about the opposite, how well will a tiny but super elite mech+tank army do?(feels like I'll be doing that with Canada...)
The submarines seem a lot better thought out this time, I wonder what'll happen when I churn out millions of the damn things...?(Germany on this one)
What about low-tier surface fleets - will a focus on destroyers and cruisers have any merit?(Norway or Portugal)
How much carnage can I cause with giant swarms of strategic bombers?(US, UK.. Sweden...?)
And finally... RE-RISE OF THE MONGOLS!! MASS CAVALRY!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!(Mongolia, duh)
 

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I suppose I'll start out by checking how badly I can abuse the recruitment laws; How will the war go if I scrape the barrel and pump out a thousand infantry divisions at the start of the game?(most likely using China or USSR for extra giggles)
What about the opposite, how well will a tiny but super elite mech+tank army do?(feels like I'll be doing that with Canada...)
The submarines seem a lot better thought out this time, I wonder what'll happen when I churn out millions of the damn things...?(Germany on this one)
What about low-tier surface fleets - will a focus on destroyers and cruisers have any merit?(Norway or Portugal)
How much carnage can I cause with giant swarms of strategic bombers?(US, UK.. Sweden...?)
And finally... RE-RISE OF THE MONGOLS!! MASS CAVALRY!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!(Mongolia, duh)
You still need to produce weapons equipment for your infantry divisions.
 

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You still need to produce weapons equipment for your infantry divisions.

Not if the game is realistic. Didn't the Soviets tell their unarmed soldiers to equip the rifle of the dead equipped one in front of him?
Plus: if he goes with an all-out militia approach as I would assume, then equipment should be cheap.
 

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Not if the game is realistic. Didn't the Soviets tell their unarmed soldiers to equip the rifle of the dead equipped one in front of him

That's the Russians in World War I, not World War II.

And given how those weapons-lite divisions performed in World War I, it's probably better for the game to just not model them.
 

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You don't need to equip all your troops with stuff.
If I remember correctly, there are two "bars" in the recruitment process:

A) Manpower: if enough men are available the bar fills immediately
B) Training: is capped by equipment (that is, if you don't have enough equipment, training will not progress).

In any case, once 10% of each requirement is satisfied, you can field your division.
If you're in a hurry, you can field a manpower-full division regardless of its training/equipment. Won't do wonders on the battlefield but hey, it's still a thousand of angry dudes shouting at the enemy.
 

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If you build 500 submarines in HOI3, than you can also build destroyer only fleet 100+ destroyer in 1 fleet in channel partrol mode will sink the royal navy + french navy into the bottom of the sea in 1939^^
 

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i always like doing a reverse overlord with Germany crossing the channel, amphibious landings on southern coast led by paratroopers :), i almost never war Russia until i have secured UK i hate two front wars