Where is the manual?

[Count Coleman]

I can't seem to find it anywhere. Before you say "wiki" let me say that I don't believe the wiki has the detail yet to support the player who is learning/not experienced with Paradox games, especially since the game just came out. I know that some parts of the manuals are outdated soon by patches, but the core of the mechanics and, most importantly, the interface, usually doesn't change much.

If Paradox has made the decision not to bother with the manual many players will give up and tire of doing web searches just to find out how the game works. Maybe not important to some, but that means that Paradox will sell less DLC because players who could have become hooked on Stellaris have given up early and deleted it from their hard drives in frustration.

Just a thought.

 

[yezhanquan]

As with all PDS games, nothing beats playing the game itself, reading the wiki and asking on the forums. Before wikis were a thing, most of us did the other 2.

 

[Siggerad]

There is a help option in the right corner, yes is a wiki window on game is not a manual, but help me with a few traits, how genetic alterations works, etc.

 

[solops]

As with all PDS games, nothing beats playing the game itself, reading the wiki and asking on the forums. Before wikis were a thing, most of us did the other 2.

Wrong. As with all Paradox games nothing beats reading the manual and this game REALLY needs one. The lack of one here is the exception that proves the rule. Wikis are almost useless - incomplete and poorly organized. Most importantly, they are not available offline where most of us study (and play) the game.

 

[yezhanquan]

For vanilla, sure. But, the manual doesn't get updated as the DLCs roll on.

 

[solops]

For vanilla, sure. But, the manual doesn't get updated as the DLCs roll on.

Irrelevant as each DLC comes with its own documentation, as do the patches. We need a PDF manual, as Paradox has always provided.

 

[yezhanquan]

Again, not that the documentations were that useful as far as I can recall.

 

[Safehold]

Manuals are obsolete. Irregardless, if people had them, reading it isn't going to teach them how to play Stellaris, let alone CK2.

Not having internet isn't the problem of a wiki.

 

[angelosnau]

I didn't even start playing HOI 3 before reading the manual and strategy guide. I only do that with paradox games, due to their complexity. A newcomer will have a lot of queries on how to play a paradox game.

 

[Count Coleman]

For vanilla, sure. But, the manual doesn't get updated as the DLCs roll on.

There are at least 4 EU4 DLC manuals currently. They are shorter than the original, which is appropriate.

 

[jsbarker702]

This is my biggest complaint with the game...how can you put out a game this complex with no manual and then rely on an incomplete Wiki.

 

[blallo]

maintaining an updated manual of a paradox game is impossible with the current dlc policy.

i remember 2 or 3 youtubers saying that they thought about making a guide series for a paradox game but then they discarded the project since any guide would be useless after 3 months.

the wiki, with those "updated up to" is the best solution.