Where did this -34% admin tech cost came from?

[IndirectHero]

I just noticed that my Admin tech has this -34% Idea cost on there. I checked my triggers buffs on the first tab and I don't see anything there that shows this -34%. Any idea where this came from? I started as Aragon and formed Spain, but I don't see any of those buffs in the Argaon national ideas. I don't mind having it, it just I don't know where it came from.

Here are the screenshots of the -34% admin cost and my national ideas.

http://imgur.com/a/ZA4n5

 

[DDRJake]

filling out ideas which cost ADM give you a discount on ADM technology. Same for DIP and MIL.

 

[Viperswhip]

filling out ideas which cost ADM give you a discount on ADM technology. Same for DIP and MIL.

Jake, instead of answering this question, shouldn't you be posting ep3? If you wait too much longer I will have to watch it on my own time instead of whilst at work heh

 

[Aldrahill]

filling out ideas which cost ADM give you a discount on ADM technology. Same for DIP and MIL.

Would be great if it said that literally anywhere...

Why is everything in this game so obscured?!

 

[Viperswhip]

Would be great if it said that literally anywhere...

Why is everything in this game so obscured?!

Mostly because they continually make sweeping changes and the tooltips are kind of a secondary concern. Maybe the very last patch will be clearing everything up.

 

[IndirectHero]

filling out ideas which cost ADM give you a discount on ADM technology. Same for DIP and MIL.

Ah that makes sense, thanks man!

 

[atwix]

filling out ideas which cost ADM give you a discount on ADM technology. Same for DIP and MIL.

heh, i didn't know that. So if you take administrative, religious, humanism and expansion, you get a huge discount then? how is it calculated?

 

[balmung60]

2% per idea for 14% per idea group.

So completing the all six idea groups in the administrative category would give a 99% reduction in ADM tech cost (84% from having the ideas + 5% from Scientific Revolution + 10% from the last idea in Administrative). The diplomatic category would give a 94% reduction (84% from ideas + 10% for the last idea in Diplomatic Ideas). Military would give a 113% reduction (98% from seven idea groups + 5% from Plutocratic + 10% from Aristocratic).

EDIT: I seemed to recall that it was originally 0.7% per idea, but it seems to have been changed.

 

[Closet Skeleton]

heh, i didn't know that. So if you take administrative, religious, humanism and expansion, you get a huge discount then? how is it calculated?

Its like 2% for every idea. But its not that huge a discount because techs naturally get more expensive to balance it and if you focus on ideas in one group you'll be behind on that tech group anyway.

 

[Alblaka]

They increased the discout from 0.7 to 2 % per idea when the 'scaling over time' tech cost increase was added.

 

[atwix]

tbh, i think the OP is talking about the newly added neighbour bonus if you are behind in tech vs them.

 

[oblio-]

That's a multiple of 5 these days, so it can't be 34.

2% per idea for 14% per idea group.

So completing the all six idea groups in the administrative category would give a 99% reduction in ADM tech cost (84% from having the ideas + 5% from Scientific Revolution + 10% from the last idea in Administrative). The diplomatic category would give a 94% reduction (84% from ideas + 10% for the last idea in Diplomatic Ideas). Military would give a 113% reduction (98% from seven idea groups + 5% from Plutocratic + 10% from Aristocratic).

EDIT: I seemed to recall that it was originally 0.7% per idea, but it seems to have been changed.

The discount caps at a certain value, I can't remember it. So the minimum cost is actually 20? 100? Don't remember. And for ADM it's highly unlikely that you will take and fill 6 idea groups unless you have at least 4-5 god-rulers that live 30+ years. I'm an ADM idea group freak and at most I reach about 4-5: Administrative, Humanist, Religious, Expansion, Innovative. Usually one is only partially filled.

 

[Kh3lben]

That's a multiple of 5 these days, so it can't be 34.

That's neighbour bonus you are thinking of.His 34% discount comes from the 17 adm ideas he has unlocked.

 

[oblio-]

That's neighbour bonus you are thinking of.His 34% discount comes from the 17 adm ideas he has unlocked.

tbh, i think the OP is talking about the newly added neighbour bonus if you are behind in tech vs them.

Just 1 post above mine

 

[PostTenebrasLux]

Its like 2% for every idea. But its not that huge a discount because techs naturally get more expensive to balance it and if you focus on ideas in one group you'll be behind on that tech group anyway.

In my experience, the "increase over time" penalty is significantly outweighed by the idea discount, so techs get cheaper over time until very late, especially if you have specific tech discounts.

 

[balmung60]

That's a multiple of 5 these days, so it can't be 34.


The discount caps at a certain value, I can't remember it. So the minimum cost is actually 20? 100? Don't remember. And for ADM it's highly unlikely that you will take and fill 6 idea groups unless you have at least 4-5 god-rulers that live 30+ years. I'm an ADM idea group freak and at most I reach about 4-5: Administrative, Humanist, Religious, Expansion, Innovative. Usually one is only partially filled.

The minimum cost is 30 MPs, IIRC. Though with a 110%+ discount, you could take techs early and still get a large discount.

 

[Alblaka]

tbh, i think the OP is talking about the newly added neighbour bonus if you are behind in tech vs them.

Admin tech has this -34% Idea cost on there

No.