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Hi everyone! Again with a noob question. I can't seem to find where I can see how much "bad-boy"-points I currently have and even if I did I would still not know how much it takes before everyone will start gathering in coallitions at my door-step :) so please if someone could be nice enough to answer these two questions I would be very happy.
 

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There is no more bad boy. Its effects are incorporated into the relations system. What gave you badboy in EU3 will now genereate agrresive expansion penalties to the relations with countries that have an interest in what you do.
 

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There is no "bad boy" in EU 4. They changed it to "diplomatic agressive factor" which mostly affect only neighbours.
So no more silly bad boy war with Ethiopia when you are Sweden:)
 

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one word overextension
and by the way coalitions are kind of lame... i was hoping they would revolutionize the politics of the game but every time i expand they get mad they form a coalition and after about two years of not expanding the coalition breaks up and i can go to war again
 

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However I've noticed there is no relations/opinions map mode
 

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every time i expand they get mad they form a coalition and after about two years of not expanding the coalition breaks up and i can go to war again

Holy shit, people aren't mad for all eternity at you when you do something they dont like!

AND they stopped your expansion for two years! Super lame!
 

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Holy shit, people aren't mad for all eternity at you when you do something they dont like!

AND they stopped your expansion for two years! Super lame!

yes youd think it would get really serious and hard to maneuver once they form a coalition... that they be at it for decades or at least until they change leader and if you declare war for a non core that they would declare war on you and attack your trade nodes but they do nothing of the sort
 

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one word overextension
and by the way coalitions are kind of lame... i was hoping they would revolutionize the politics of the game but every time i expand they get mad they form a coalition and after about two years of not expanding the coalition breaks up and i can go to war again

No, over extension is one thing whichb comes from bb points, but it doesn't affect relations. The wors you are lookoing for is agressive expansion.
 

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one word overextension
and by the way coalitions are kind of lame... i was hoping they would revolutionize the politics of the game but every time i expand they get mad they form a coalition and after about two years of not expanding the coalition breaks up and i can go to war again

Hope they fix this in a patch.
 

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there is a diplomatic map mode that shows your relations with other nations...

It shows allies, vassals, PUs, Wars and Royal Marriages but there's no map mode that shows opinions between countries.
 

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And those sentiment events for going over the infamy limit are now reserved for those who dare to surpass 100% overextension.

If there is an opinion map mode, it is best to show the countries' attitude towards you (friendly/cordial/neutral/threatened/rival/hostile/enraged/vassal/liege)
 

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And those sentiment events for going over the infamy limit are now reserved for those who dare to surpass 100% overextension.

If there is an opinion map mode, it is best to show the countries' attitude towards you (friendly/cordial/neutral/threatened/rival/hostile/enraged/vassal/liege)

Why not a color from dark red to light green for the -200 to 200 relation, and stripes on the country for the attitude ?
 

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Where can aggression points be seen? Both for you and the AI
Also in the demo Bavaria declared war on Austria using "Dishonourable scum" as Casus Belli, I guess it is due to aggression.