Where are they at (Kardashev scale)?

[MAHak]

So where on the scale(s) would you put the different types of empires, normal, fallen and maybe the precursors if you know their lore?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
https://futurism.com/the-kardashev-scale-of-civilization-types/
https://futurism.com/the-kardashev-scale-type-i-ii-iii-iv-v-civilization/

DISCLAIMER!!! Yes, we should all keep in mind that Stellaris is a sci-fi game, therefore many of its gameplay mechanics are novelties that are (probably) never going to exist in real life, so some free interpretation is warranted.

I would categories a normal 2200 empire as below Type I, as the energy harnessing on the home planet has not reached its limit yet, despite prediction that in real life we might achieve that in as few as a 100 years from now.
Once you have built, or have the ability to, tier 4 energy plants on all planet tiles, you would become a Type I civilisation.
If you build a dyson sphere around one star you will progress to Type II.
You could potentially become a Type III civilisation, but you would have to build dyson spheres around all the stars in the galaxy, maybe they should add that as a joke achievement.

A fallen empire would be a Type I, maybe Type II as they had or could probably build a dyson sphere.

Anyone else care to join in, with categorising?

Edit: Sorry for taking up space for Utopia hype and speculation threads

 

[GC13]

If you build a dyson sphere around one star you will progress to Type II.

It doesn't have to be from a single star. As ridiculous as it sounds, you become a tier 2 civilization as soon as you are generating at least 400 energy per month.

Man, there's just no satisfying way to include dyson spheres in a game like Stellaris. There's just so sense of scale in Stellaris, and you need a serious sense of scale to go from "just discovered interstellar flight" to "all of the energy output of a star? Sure, we can put that to a useful purpose" in the same game.

 

[Drowe]

Stellaris isn't really suited for the Kardashev scale, but if I had to make a guess, you start out as below Type I and can get close to a Type II as defined by the galaxy size.

 

[Moonshadow101]

The categories of the Kardashev scale are so broad as to be functionally useless.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

I think the highest anybody can be on the scale in this game is tier 2, and barely scraping that. The end-game disasters are exceptions since they easily qualify for tier 2 or even 3 civilization. The Unbidden, easily tier 3, though maybe just be completely mentally retarded. The Swarm might be tier 3, but they don't really harness the power of any sun (but the tiers may be based on ABILITY to harness power, rather than actually doing it, since their galactic hive mind is very powerful). The AI revolt start out tier 1 but they can become tier 3 in a matter of a few centuries if they are able to kill all organic life, unless they go out like the Cybrex.

All the precursors I would say were tier 1.

I say throw the Kardashev scale out the window when it comes to dealing with other intelligent life, just due to the existentialist crisis that would arise.

 

[TheWalkingLost]

I'd argue everything in Stellaris is late Type-1.

While we see some examples of Type-2 technologies, they are inefficient prototypes.