At 1750, most of European kingdoms were ruled either by a Habsburg or by a Bourbon. Remember also the extent of the House of Vasa (Finnish origin, wasn't it?)
But yes, if you can extend the number of dynasties, then do it. I will do it for sure.
Where are HTTT Dynasty Names Defined?
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At 1750, most of European kingdoms were ruled either by a Habsburg or by a Bourbon. Remember also the extent of the House of Vasa (Finnish origin, wasn't it?)
But yes, if you can extend the number of dynasties, then do it. I will do it for sure.
..that doesnt coutn as as ifar as i know it was established by Napoleon who wasnt even a noble bastard 
..that doesnt coutn as as ifar as i know it was established by Napoleon who wasnt even a noble bastard
Napoleon didn't stablish the House of Bernadotte. The Swedish king appointed Bernadotte, I don't know why. And Bernadotte even fought Napoleon as king of Sweden.
Napoleon, by the way, was a nobleman. His father was noble, but during the French Revolution, it was no fashion to boast on one's own nobility, so he just ignored the fact that his father was Carlo Maria di Buonaparte, from the Corse nobility, related to the important Italian House of Colonna, and became a full French.
I don't think so. They were from Uppland and thats not in Finland. Only connection the whole family had with Finland is that one of the cities was named after the family. Its called Vaasa in finnish but in swedish its Vasa.
yeah I noticed this and it was the only thing I didn't like about the demo
What would the examples of them though?
yeah I noticed this and it was the only thing I didn't like about the demo
Well if we stick with nobles then Mannerheim, Snellman, Järnefelt, Molander, Stjernvall, Tandefelt, Armfelt, Agricola and Hackman for example. They sound quite much foreign as most nobles were with foreign names as most of the families came from other countries like from German and Sweden originally. There was not really any totally finnish noble names until recent years when few of them changed them to their finnish counter parts.
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If each German dynasty is averaging a half dozen countries, then that means there's going to be 84 countries with German dynasties.
Not likely.
As I've mentioned elsewhere I'm releasing a primarily indian oriented mod some time in december or january and I agree completely. "Kaunauji" culture I think is passable however as culture isn't necessarily about language and the hindi language isn't formed yet at the start of the game (the culture group is indeed called hindusthani and I made a region for northern india called Hindusthan). Kaunaj is in fact a region as well as a (much older) language and so I've considered the culture to refer to that rather than the language (but a better name would indeed be nice, though I think Hindusthani would need to swallow up atleast awadhi as well to be logical).
Perhaps the culture could be named "Upper Doabi" or somesuch? Though that doesn't sound very nice...
I've taken a somewhat similar approach on the often foreign reigning aristocracies in the muslim countries to you but would like to make a point about Gujarat and Bengal:
I think both could have indian dynasties rising to power. Gujarat _was_ ruled by converted rajputs after all, and as I mentioned a hindu vizier did take power over Bengal and then converted and named his son Mohammad and made him sultan (That's the ganesha dynasty in vanilla HTTT's files).
I would also like to make the point that by the game's start india has had a muslim aristocracy for so long that inserting some of those "foreign" families into the indian culture groups wouldn't be amiss at all. There are also several examples of hindu nobility converting and ruling muslim states, I'm not sure if the opposite happened however (the one I can think of is Mysore but that state rather became muslim when a muslim dynasty took it over in the 1700s).
Most of the hindu nations in this game did have a large element of persian/afghan/arabs in their militaries and nobility so having those elements take over wouldn't be unthinkable (according to some sources the founders of the Vijayanagar empire themselves where at one point Muslims, whether this is true or not I cannot tell but even according to themselves they did serve as officers in the muslim armies before founding their nation).
One last point
:The mughals should not be uzbecks, there were no uzbeks in Samarkand when they left it. The uzbeks where the one's who chased Timur away from there and then settled and that's the reason the area is predominantly Uzbek today.
Anyone know what happens if Finland somehow emerges as a monarchy and there are no dynasty names on the list?
I think the system works well enough for Europe, where culture groups are often so close that many evolved into little more than areas with funny dialects, but sorta fails with East Asia, where Ming, Manchu, Korea, and Japan all share the same dynasty names. This especially doesn't work with Japan, where the (officially) unbroken line of Tennou from 1600BCE is/was a pretty big deal.Also, I think they mixed Yamato, the old name of Japan sometimes used as a dynasty name for the imperial family, and Yamamoto, a common surname with little historical significance.
I think the system works well enough for Europe, where culture groups are often so close that many evolved into little more than areas with funny dialects, but sorta fails with East Asia, where Ming, Manchu, Korea, and Japan all share the same dynasty names. This especially doesn't work with Japan, where the (officially) unbroken line of Tennou from 1600BCE is/was a pretty big deal.Also, I think they mixed Yamato, the old name of Japan sometimes used as a dynasty name for the imperial family, and Yamamoto, a common surname with little historical significance.
Nothing really Finland just doesn't have a dynasty. There is of course a king but he doesn't belong to any dynasty. Thats why adding some names to the dynasty names is a good idea.
Here's how the system works, in case it is unclear:
Dynasties can be defined in the history files, for each monarch and heir. If these are not defined in the culture group, they will be automatically added to it.
Dynasties defined in the culture group are used when the outcome of succession is that "a local noble ascends to the throne".
Lastly, pretenders can rise to the throne after a successful rebellion. Their surname (leader names in the country definition files) will become the new dynasty (and will also be added to names in the culture group.)
As for defining dynasty names per culture... Tell you what, I'll include that functionality in the first patch, for modders to play with.
Dynasties can be defined in the history files, for each monarch and heir. If these are not defined in the culture group, they will be automatically added to it.
Dynasties defined in the culture group are used when the outcome of succession is that "a local noble ascends to the throne".
Lastly, pretenders can rise to the throne after a successful rebellion. Their surname (leader names in the country definition files) will become the new dynasty (and will also be added to names in the culture group.)
As for defining dynasty names per culture... Tell you what, I'll include that functionality in the first patch, for modders to play with.
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Napoleon did not regard himself as "full French" by any means. His native tongue was Corsican Italian and he was always said to have spoken with a Corsican accent. Furthermore, this was what Napoleon said to the leader of the Corsican independence movement:
As the nation was perishing I was born. Thirty thousand Frenchmen were vomited on to our shores, drowning the throne of liberty in waves of blood. Such was the odious sight which was the first to strike me.
He took advantage of his French citizenship and the republican times which he lived in, but he was neither French or republican at his core.
So why cant here be a country specific list for "a local noble ascends to the Throne" ? Local already says it shouldnt be culture specific , doesnt it?
Adding this would make the system totally perfect, because the other things you mentioned already seem to be perfect.
I could also live with the compromise to take the names of the new dynasty in the "local noble" event from the leader list also, even if i have the problem with it, that leaders arent always nobles. So best version would be to really have a list of local nobles country specific.
Well there were local nobles that weren't really considered to be from the same culture. There for example were several noble families in all around europe that were really from other culture areas than that where they lived. For example German nobles were in almost all the courts in europe in some point. So local doesn't necesery mean that the noble is from the same culture as the province it just means he is a local noble.
Finland is a good example as there really was no finnish nobles at the time period they were mostly Swedish even on their own standards.