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Well, in that case, here are some more suggestions:

Carthaginian/Punic - A dying culture I know but there are still fragments: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics#146_BC_to_700_AD
Carthaginian where nearly exterminated by the romans after the punic wars! As I said before in this thread at the time of 480 there should be no carthaginians at all. It stands on the page that you linked that there where none after the fall of Rome. All of the other suggestions are plausible though.
 

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Minor tweak: at this point Iceland is actually free of pesky humans, but if you MUST have a culture there it would be Old Irish as Irish monks set up some of the first colonies there before the Vikings did what they do best.
 

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Minor tweak: at this point Iceland is actually free of pesky humans, but if you MUST have a culture there it would be Old Irish as Irish monks set up some of the first colonies there before the Vikings did what they do best.
Yeah, I thought about this too and you should maybe make some events relating the vikings conquest and discovery of iceland around 850. It is however not a very important place and it should be at the start date extremly poor. The irish where maybe there around the 600-700.
 

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Punic culture was pretty much dead and buried by 480; all that was left were Roman settlers in the old Carthaginian lands calling themselves "Punic" due to their province of origin(much how like Romans from Italy were "Italians", the Romans from France were "Gauls", and so on), and probably not even that, what with the roaming Vandals and all.
 

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Speaking of Irish monks, I think that parts of Ireland should be Insular or Nicene by 480, if not the majority of the island, no?
 

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Speaking of Irish monks, I think that parts of Ireland should be Insular or Nicene by 480, if not the majority of the island, no?
Probably, Saint Patrick died 19 years before the start date so at least some parts of the island should be insular.
 

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Is it possible for a region not to have a character?
No, but there might be a way to make a place-holder. Make an "empty" culture and religion, empty characters are immortal and their portraits are just scenery. Change all CBs to be useless against them except for a new "colonize" CB.
 

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No, but there might be a way to make a place-holder. Make an "empty" culture and religion, empty characters are immortal and their portraits are just scenery. Change all CBs to be useless against them except for a new "colonize" CB.
Isn't that how the AGOT-team uses the ruins? The CB could be called viking settlement.
 

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Southern part of Ireland could be Nicene and most of the rest insular with some Celtic county maybe .Which is the religion in the tip of Sicily? You could make Syraccuses Hellenic culture too and maybe Helenic religion
 

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It would probably be a bit much to add a whole colonisation system and everything, seeing as it would only be for two provinces after all.
Perhaps add Newfoundland? ;)
 

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Wasn't Hellenismos almost totally wiped out at this start date?

I wonder who the last Hellenics were.

Also, perhaps Neo-Platonism could be added as a Nicene heresy?

And why is Insular different from Nicene? Isn't just a cultural thing?
 

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Perhaps add Newfoundland? ;)
Or Greenland?

Wasn't Hellenismos almost totally wiped out at this start date?

I wonder who the last Hellenics were.

Also, perhaps Neo-Platonism could be added as a Nicene heresy?

And why is Insular different from Nicene? Isn't just a cultural thing?
The last hellenics lived in modern-day Greece if I remember correctly. And insular is probably just a cultural difference, yes.
 

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I think Enlil planned to have it make all the way to 1453.Neo Platonism could be the religion of county of Athens but suprprisingly Southern Greece were still of hellenic religion at least in simple people terms if not in rulers at this period ( In fact Maniats ( people that reside in the East and South county of Duchy of Achaia) were not considered really christianised even at 8th century! )
 

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loup99, you´re proabably right, Carthaginians are proabably extinct by this point.

Suggestions:

Sarmatian - Also a people close to extinction but are still found in the Roman Army and also refugees scattered throughout the former Empire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians#Decline_in_the_4th_century
Ghassanid - If Himyarite is a seperate culture of the Bedouins, then why not split them even more?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassanids
Lakhmidian - Same thing here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakhmids#History
Mauri/Mauritanian - We need more variety in western Africa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauri_people
Bactrian - The Iranian version obviously, is still used as THE official language by the Hephthalites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactrian_language
Sogdian - A major people and language along the Silk Road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sogdian_people#Sogdians_along_the_Silk_Road
 
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