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Zynyster

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I am playing Charlemagne start as West Francia and I conquered Saxony. I revoked all the saxons and replaced them with catholics.

“Wrong Holding Type” pops up in the counties I keep, but I can’t click the “create new vassal” because it’s greyed out.

How do I change the tribal holdings to feudal ones?

Thanks
 

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"create new vassal" is always greyed out for the capital holding. that's not a tribal thing - it's the same for feudal provinces. that button can only be used for secondary holdings in a province.

if the tribe has a level 4 fort, you can upgrade it to a castle. that will also spawn a temple and city in that province (if it has enough empty holding slots). if it doesn't have the fully upgraded fort building, you can either upgrade the forts to that level if you have the cash and the province has the required tech level, or you grant the county to a vassal who will (sooner or later) feudalize the lands.
 

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The best thing to do would most likely be just to grant it to some courtier of one of your vassals (as you most likely don't want to take one from your own court or you can just search your realm for a character with good stats). You can only use the "create new vassals" button in non-capital holdings, but you can still just grant the county to a new vassal.
 

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Also, if you want to avoid the wrong holding type penalty I think handing them out to people of the local culture (so, Saxon) characters.
 

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Also, if you want to avoid the wrong holding type penalty I think handing them out to people of the local culture (so, Saxon) characters.
Wrong holding type has nothing to do with culture. It depends on your primary holding. If your primary holding is a castle, you are feudal and all other holding types (temple, city, tribe) are considered wrong holding. If you give a holding to a landless character, they usually switch to whatever is the appropriate government type.
 

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Wrong holding type has nothing to do with culture. It depends on your primary holding. If your primary holding is a castle, you are feudal and all other holding types (temple, city, tribe) are considered wrong holding. If you give a holding to a landless character, they usually switch to whatever is the appropriate government type.

Hmm, maybe I'm mixing it up then.
 

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Thanks for the replies, I gave all the holdings to landless men and hopefully in time they’ll correct the issue for me.
 

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Wrong holding type penalty is affected by culture, for tribal holdings - if you are feudal you can hold tribal holdings with no penalty if the county has your culture. But it doesn't matter who you give the tribal holdings to, regardless of culture that character will just become tribal and not have any wrong holding type penalty, unless you do something like give a tribal holding to a character that already owns a castle.