When do you finish 8 ascension perks?

[trojan1234]

Just finished 3rd game in stellaris. I found the time when I finish 8 ascension perks gets faster and faster as I played more games. So I am curious your moderate timeframe to finish 8 perks. In other words what is your okay-ish or fast tradition unlocking rate? It is obviously up to ethics, civics, and playstyles so it would be good to mention them as well.

Let me start with my recent campaign from 2.2.2.

Spoiler

8th perk in 2348, default setup.
materialist / militarist / xenophobe
Technocracy / efficient bureacracy / police state​

 

[Kryndude]

I was like '8th perk in 2348 is pretty fast' but then saw technocracy and was like 'oh.'

 

[Kretson]

I aim for it before 2350, if it's not there on 2400 I've done something critically wrong

 

[Mauer]

I play tall all the time, get Patron of the Arts as soon as possible and build all the unique unity producing buildings as third or fourth building on all planets. About 2350 for all perks as well.

 

[Wolfgang I]

I got it by that time in my last wide technocracy game. I did not build a single unity building.

 

[Slynx]

for me it's all depends on availability of a tech to get the 8th one. usually it's around 2300-2350 for unity builds. for non-unilty builds I rarely bother to go past 5th til the very end game.
in most of my spiritualist's games I had 7th perk around 2270-2300 (mostly depends on number of planets and artists). probably could be faster with a bit of optimization and slightly different build(like xenophobe pacifists )

 

[Zardnaar]

Unity build around 2350 otherwise late 2300's.

Usually I don't focus on it or blob to much which shows it down. Quicker if you get Feb habbanis.

 

[trojan1234]

@Kryndude, @Kretson, @Mauer, @Wolfgang I, @Slynx, @Zardnaar, Thank you all.

It seems like everyone consider 2400 as late, 2350 is moderate to fast, 2300 or earlier is fastest if dedicated. I'd try new build to get 8th perk before 2300 next game.

 

[01d55]

I don't remember the year numerically, but I do recall in my recent game an Awakened Empire came up shortly after I got 8th perk.

F Materialist, militarist, byzantine/miner guilds, (reduced edict cost for third civic from tech) got fen hab, blobbed out pretty wide but didn't colonize many planets in my territory for a while, synth ascension.

 

[Zardnaar]

@Kryndude, @Kretson, @Mauer, @Wolfgang I, @Slynx, @Zardnaar, Thank you all.

It seems like everyone consider 2400 as late, 2350 is moderate to fast, 2300 or earlier is fastest if dedicated. I'd try new build to get 8th perk before 2300 next game.

Not sure if you can get pre 2300. I consider 2330s as fast.

 

[Slynx]

i think the main problem in getting the 8th perk pre-2300 is that if you focus unity - you have less slots for research. so the discovery of tech will take longer. and if you focus science - your traditions will close a bit slower.
so I think it's highly unlikely to get it pre-2300

 

[Zardnaar]

I focus science over unity as a few perks are tech locked anyway. Rush unity and you often can't pick things like the ascension Ines or arcology or the megastructure ones anyway.

 

[Derp]

Just finished 3rd game in stellaris. I found the time when I finish 8 ascension perks gets faster and faster as I played more games. So I am curious your moderate timeframe to finish 8 perks. In other words what is your okay-ish or fast tradition unlocking rate? It is obviously up to ethics, civics, and playstyles so it would be good to mention them as well.

Let me start with my recent campaign from 2.2.2.

Spoiler

8th perk in 2348, default setup.
materialist / militarist / xenophobe
Technocracy / efficient bureacracy / police state​

how in gods name do you have 4000 pops and resource incomes like that with only 27 planets

 

[WhiteKyubey]

Played some Rogue Servitors and they really have much more unity then needed. There was around 90 of my starting masters, then there was around 60 pops I stole. They lived on a single Gaia planet (I even took a perk for RP, but really a habitat or genemodding them to a single climat pref would work) and got me to all perks around 2320.
I want to build a ring now, go total war with everyone and resettle as many aliens as possible to a single ring. If one ring is not enough - there will be more rings! But...sadly it's totally useless for unity production - you simply never need that much.

 

[trojan1234]

how in gods name do you have 4000 pops and resource incomes like that with only 27 planets

Forced labor does this magic. I took all the xenos in the galaxy and let them do work.

 

[trojan1234]

Played some Rogue Servitors and they really have much more unity then needed. There was around 90 of my starting masters, then there was around 60 pops I stole. They lived on a single Gaia planet (I even took a perk for RP, but really a habitat or genemodding them to a single climat pref would work) and got me to all perks around 2320.
I want to build a ring now, go total war with everyone and resettle as many aliens as possible to a single ring. If one ring is not enough - there will be more rings! But...sadly it's totally useless for unity production - you simply never need that much.

2320 sounds fast to me. I might try this later.

i think the main problem in getting the 8th perk pre-2300 is that if you focus unity - you have less slots for research. so the discovery of tech will take longer. and if you focus science - your traditions will close a bit slower.
so I think it's highly unlikely to get it pre-2300

I understand it. I misread your post as 8th perk, however it's 7th perk.

 

[Masoz]

I'll actually forgo the 7th and 8th perk a lot of the time just to pop more unity ambitions sooner.

 

[Belhedler]

2450 on regular basis. Actually I don't need more than 6 perks for the most part and I always keep one slot safe for the end game crisis should shit hit the fan.