She's not even based on Greek myth. Anyway, his comment was obviously tongue-in-cheek.Wetew said:You know she is fictional right?
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First of all, i never said that having women generals was realistic. I only know one exception: Artemisia, one of the Satrapes under Xerxes' rule.
What I said was that there should be an option for it. Since you already have female characters, with the same skills/traits system as the male characters, just give the "option" in the menu screen. It is not like asking Paradox to create flying horses or titans or changing or assively changing the game mechanics...
What I said was that there should be an option for it. Since you already have female characters, with the same skills/traits system as the male characters, just give the "option" in the menu screen. It is not like asking Paradox to create flying horses or titans or changing or assively changing the game mechanics...
But with every game that PI has created there have been these suggestions. And for every game there have been atleast one woman that commanded her own army during that specific time period. So asking this isnt wrong and probably not very hard to change. But i doubt that it will be in the next patch, because there is to few historical female generals in the history compared to what it would be if we were allowed to place them as generals. So even if youre right I doubt we will see that possibility in the future.DesertSnow said:
Women in warfare?
1600 BC: Ahhotep I fights the Hyskos. She is later buried with military metals symbolizing her valor in battle.
roughly 1200-1000 BC: The Rigveda (RV 1 and RV 10) mentions a female warrior named Vishpala, who lost a leg in battle, had an iron prosthesis made, and returned to warfare.
320s BC Cleophis surrenders to Alexander the Great when he sieges her city.
271 BC: A group of Gothic women who were captured by Romans while fighting dressed as men are paraded through Rome wearing signs that say "Amazons".
205 BC: Sophonisba, a Carthaginian, commits suicide rather than be handed over to the Romans as a prisoner of war.
They were not very successful, it seems Obviously, people are too influenced by modern action movies where women kung-fu fight everyone. Do you expect a woman to be able to march whole day wearing heavy armor, and then fighting hand-to-hand with a male?
Of course, there were women like Joan d'Arc, morale boosters, as you say, but very few took part in actual fighting. The whole concept of absolute equality is quite silly.
1600 BC: Ahhotep I fights the Hyskos. She is later buried with military metals symbolizing her valor in battle.
roughly 1200-1000 BC: The Rigveda (RV 1 and RV 10) mentions a female warrior named Vishpala, who lost a leg in battle, had an iron prosthesis made, and returned to warfare.
320s BC Cleophis surrenders to Alexander the Great when he sieges her city.
271 BC: A group of Gothic women who were captured by Romans while fighting dressed as men are paraded through Rome wearing signs that say "Amazons".
205 BC: Sophonisba, a Carthaginian, commits suicide rather than be handed over to the Romans as a prisoner of war.
They were not very successful, it seems
Obviously, people are too influenced by modern action movies where women kung-fu fight everyone. Do you expect a woman to be able to march whole day wearing heavy armor, and then fighting hand-to-hand with a male? Of course, there were women like Joan d'Arc, morale boosters, as you say, but very few took part in actual fighting. The whole concept of absolute equality is quite silly.
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What's that got to do with whether women could be generals? Generals ride on horseback and let other people do the fighting for them.Kamamura said:
StephenT said:
400 hundred years after the end of the game isn't "this period".
On topic: What role women should be able to play depends upon the nation they are in. The Roman republic was very restrictive when it came to giving political office to women while the Britons for example even let a women lead their armies.
yup,and if i want my suebi to be ruled by woman,it should be allowed (historical you say?In this game macedonia can be empire so gimme a break )
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That is merely alternative history. History can probably change quite much if X happens instead of Y. Women leading armies in the Meditterranean B.C. is something that basically would require a reformation of the very social system of basically every country, i.e. unrealistic.echoes said:yup,and if i want my suebi to be ruled by woman,it should be allowed (historical you say?In this game macedonia can be empire so gimme a break
StephenT said:What's that got to do with whether women could be generals? Generals ride on horseback and let other people do the fighting for them.
Man has a point...
In fact... if you look at some of history's greatest generals... theres more frail looking chaps than man mountains...
But in any event... the army that's been marching for days is already at a considerable disadvantage regardless...
So we hear loud laments and the ripping of sackcloth because women governors are unrealistic, but nobody has a single copper qualm over a nation praying to its god and getting increased trade, as a result? "Hey, the entire nation just got down on its knees to one of our dieties after making the requisite sacrifices, and now inflation has been cut by 35%."
Oh, that's realistic.
Oh, that's realistic.
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social revolution u say?I made lusitania major from military tribe to dictatorship with almost all of modern spain (call me lucky i guess ) and if i wan't to be ruled by woman,it should happen queens weren't sumthin' unusual in those times you know?Those weren't dark ages with women treated as incubators
) and if i wan't to be ruled by woman,it should happen queens weren't sumthin' unusual in those times you know?Those weren't dark ages with women treated as incubators
Bertouch said:"Hey, the entire nation just got down on its knees to one of our dieties after making the requisite sacrifices, and now inflation has been cut by 35%."
Oh, that's realistic.
...depends how much value was in the stuff you sacrificed :rofl:
DesertSnow said:
Your point is mute.
Hitler himself was somewhat sionist, and entertained the thought of an independent jewish nation.
It is much more realistic than female governors.
Didn't Zenobia lead armies in battle, as well as ruling a good portion of the Eastern Empire for a while?
Given the times, women should certainly face greater challenges than men in holding onto a governorship, but it shouldn't be impossible.
Given the times, women should certainly face greater challenges than men in holding onto a governorship, but it shouldn't be impossible.