What's the shortest time to occupy the territory of whole world?

[Incompetent]

Fastest world *occupation* would be an interesting contest. I imagine you can do it a lot quicker than a world conquest.

 

[Gyorn]

The poster who made it showed screenshots of unit model vs date that require more monarch points to reach than your cap [...]

Ah, i never followed the thread apart from the first page, would have thought they correct stuff like that. However, i guess a definitely legit runner up is DDRJake with his OTHER Three mountains by 1762
Anyway, this was with Ryukyu, in an old version and he had severe overextension in the end, so its probably not exactly what OP has in mind.

@fastest occupation: Im not sure this would be much easier/faster, if you want to occupy large swaps of land over a large time your WE would got nuts because of call for peace. Keeping 200 provinces with 20 RR under controll without being able to give in to rebel demands sounds...hard.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Ah, i never followed the thread apart from the first page, would have thought they correct stuff like that. However, i guess a definitely legit runner up is DDRJake with his OTHER Three mountains by 1762
Anyway, this was with Ryukyu, in an old version and he had severe overextension in the end, so its probably not exactly what OP has in mind.

@fastest occupation: Im not sure this would be much easier/faster, if you want to occupy large swaps of land over a large time your WE would got nuts because of call for peace. Keeping 200 provinces with 20 RR under controll without being able to give in to rebel demands sounds...hard.

20 revolt risk
-20% manpower recovery
+200% ship and army recruit time
-40% goods produced
+ 50% core creation cost (not relevant if you're just going for occupation)
-20% siege ability

That's pretty brutal. If you have the money to survive such a mammoth goods hit and the units you need already, the real barrier is that RR. 20 RR is massive, double what you get from 1.7 westernization. Can we overcome it?

Orthodox with 100 PA: +1 tolerance, -3 RR
Plutocratic: -2 RR
Humanist: -2 RR
Base tolerance: 3
Theocracy government tolerance: 2
3 stability: 3
tier 2 adm building: -1rr
Religious tolerance idea: 1

Oh, so we're spamming government buildings? We should take economic then. Some policies we can get from ideas so far:

Defensive-Economic: The Public Welfare Act: 1
Defensive-Religious: Edict of Expulsion: 1
Economic-Religious: The Moral Economy Act: 2

Maybe we want administrative also, which opens up

Administrative-Economic: The Judiciary Act: 1
Humanist-Administrative: Provincial Autonomy: 1

We're not actually coring anything, so a final push for massed occupation with these policies enabled isn't a big deal. If you tally this up, you get -24 revolt risk from either positive tolerance or -rr.

Assuming you had religious unity (and hell, you're a freaking Orthodox theocracy with religious ideas, you'd better), you wouldn't necessarily need 3 stability. Legitimacy is no concern for RR, because you're a theocracy. With religious/humanist, you could either make sure a culture is accepted or convert it before going for this push. You could also be the Papal State or even someone like Tibet, though the -rr margins are tighter.

Now, who can manage this? Papal states, Teutonic/Livonian, Knights, Tibet. I guess you could do someone like Novgorod too, but then keep RT at 100 and go full PA. You'd lose the theocracy +2 tolerance, but could still break 20 with no legitimacy to muck things up.

The best candidate is probably Lithuania that goes republic. Lithuania is a pretty strong start (stronger than Manchu, Ireland, or Japan) that can go Orthodox w/o too much hassle and has a -2rr NI, making it competitive with the Orthodox theocracy setup. To get the policies above, you need Religious, Administrative, Economic, and Humanist...lots of ADM ideas. You also need defensive and plutocratic, which is okay. 6 NIs total.

 

[DDRJake]

The issue isn't getting -20RR to overcome war exhaustion, it's overcoming the +RR from "occupied" malus which ticks up over time and, as far as I have seen, has no limit.

I've entertained the thought of a world occupation idea before (especially in EU3 where you could massively reduce the supply of goods and make crazy money from large scale occupations) but the "occupied" malus need to be broken somehow.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

The issue isn't getting -20RR to overcome war exhaustion, it's overcoming the +RR from "occupied" malus which ticks up over time and, as far as I have seen, has no limit.

****, completely forgot about that. Yeah, the rebels in AI territory would be the problem, not ours. Hmm. Gogo united HRE and assault ahoy :/. Shouldn't take too long to assault down a few hundred provinces with a united HRE and 600-1000 regiments or w/e.

 

[Gyorn]

Right, totaly forgot about the ticking malus...besides, tolerance only helps with provinces of your religion and you can only spam buildings in provinces you own, thus both helping only in a minor amount of the provinces you have to occupy.
@DDRJake: Would you mind giving an estimate/guess for fastest world conquest, no matter the nation? I wouldnt be suprised if you already worked the numbers :laugh:

Stray thought: IIRC the next DLC will allow to change occupation status (or only sieges?) of provinces, which might reset the timer. If yes, it might be possible to swap back and forth with vassals, assuming (again) that they will switch it back to you.

 

[ozanatmar]

Dude you need lots of AP to do it