What's the point of Military Police? (Discussion)

[bitmode]

I typically use something like for garrisons: MP, 4 cav, 1 AC
Or: MP, 8 cav, 2 AC...

Why would you mix two battalion types? Do you also use this template on the map?

 

[seattle]

Why would you mix two battalion types? Do you also use this template on the map?

No, only off-map anti-partisan garrison. Or whatever that's called.

 

[porta80]

Why would you mix two battalion types? Do you also use this template on the map?

I guess he uses the hardness to minimise loses but not increasing costs to much. Might be worth a try.

 

[Simon_9732495]

Why would you mix two battalion types?

When you have a 4 CAV + MP garrison template and want to minimize losses further you can just start producing armored cars and if you have enough make the template 4 CAV + 1 AC + MP. (And later 2 AC and so on.)
If you directly go to 25 AC + MP you need a lot XP and AC.

Or the transition could be:

Starting template:
4 CAV
-> research MP at some point
4 CAV + MP
-> continously add CAV
25 CAV + MP
-> start producing and adding AC
24 CAV + 1AC + MP
-> more AC produced
23 CAV + 2AC + MP
-> and so on until you have enough hardness. If you want until:
25 AC + MP

Or if you want to have 15CAV + 10AC + MP at the end you could go to 15CAV + MP and add AC from there...

Many possibilities for mixed types...

 

[Gratch11]

Am I to understand that MP on the map in other divisions other than the garrison divisions has no purpose/effect?

 

[FindFloppies]

Am I to understand that MP on the map in other divisions other than the garrison divisions has no purpose/effect?

Correct.

 

[SophieX]

Am I to understand that MP on the map in other divisions other than the garrison divisions has no purpose/effect?

Land units - Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki

hoi4.paradoxwikis.com

scroll down to table at the bottom.

Be aware that these stats are verified to version 1.5.

I think there might be differences to 1.9.3 but not in a way that MP has no influence

 

[porta80]

Land units - Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki

hoi4.paradoxwikis.com

scroll down to table at the bottom.

Be aware that these stats are verified to version 1.5.

I think there might be differences to 1.9.3 but not in a way that MP has no influence

Nothing has changed.

 

[SophieX]

Nothing has changed.

Meets my experience, but I didn't try to verify.

 

[Gratch11]

So three different answers

No change
Change but not sure what
No effect with new way of suppression by offmap units

So which one is it?

 

[SophieX]

So three different answers

No change
Change but not sure what
No effect with new way of suppression by offmap units

So which one is it?

Good joke

 

[Gratch11]

Good joke

honestly, not a joke since I got different answers....

 

[Zauberelefant]

honestly, not a joke since I got different answers....

Easy: the suppression stat works only off map, everything else works as usual.

You sort of get an additional infantry battalion without added width.

 

[Premu]

This Div. looks nice, i will use it next Time with GER, but without MP.
Thats too expensive because 1 minimum loss per day /DIV

For Germany there is no need to create a new template, at least if you do the Anschluss. You "inherit" the Austrian "Schnelle Division" template which is just four CAV without support companies which you can use without investing any XP.

 

[FindFloppies]

For Germany there is no need to create a new template, at least if you do the Anschluss. You "inherit" the Austrian "Schnelle Division" template which is just four CAV without support companies which you can use without investing any XP.

The Italians have one of those, too. Cavalry Regiment, 4 battalions.
The Soviets are even easier. NKVD, has MP already, too.

 

[Dlin369]

Am I to understand that MP on the map in other divisions other than the garrison divisions has no purpose/effect?

I think MP has some boosts for on-map divisions but they aren't really worth it for your line divisions. Maybe in niche scenarios where you need that extra defense

 

[seattle]

I think MP has some boosts for on-map divisions but they aren't really worth it for your line divisions. Maybe in niche scenarios where you need that extra defense

Doesn't the Soviet NKVD focus pimp the MP support with some combat bonuses?

 

[Simon_9732495]

Doesn't the Soviet NKVD focus pimp the MP support with some combat bonuses?

NKVD Divisions gives +5% Reinforce Rate
-> https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Soviet_national_focus_tree#NKVD_Primacy
-> https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Soviet_national_focus_tree#NKVD_Divisions

I think MP has some boosts for on-map divisions but they aren't really worth it for your line divisions. Maybe in niche scenarios where you need that extra defense

It gives +20 to Defense which is 2nd highest amongst support company, after Engineers. And +3 Soft Attack which is the 3rd highest after Artillery and Rocket Artillery.
-> https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Land_units#Unit_types

You are right: Not worth it.

 

[bitmode]

It gives +20 to Defense which is 2nd highest amongst support company, after Engineers. And +3 Soft Attack which is the 3rd highest after Artillery and Rocket Artillery.

And those are the stats with worst-possible equipment (Basic Infantry Equipment). It generally gives the full stats of the equipped infantry equipment (bug report).