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Considering I just found out that Backup Game Files now will constantly match your normal save on Ironman, what's the point of having backup saves at all, (Unless you feel like making one)? I understand that sometimes a Save will corrupt or something bad like that, but it can mess with the backup as well, and as far as I am concerned, corrupt saves don't really happen. What made backup save files so neat and "necessary" is that if you made a crucial mistake (like letting rebels spawn with 3x your current ability) or you want to test the waters in a planned war, backups enabled at least some kind of relief, rather than you literally needing to start an entirely new Campaign every... single... time... you make a a slightly too big mistake. I think I can safely assume everyone who has played EU4, has at least once gone to a backup save from a month or two back in the game, because their army melted in a battle and was decimated (so they plan a better location to put their army), or they accidentally let 3 groups of rebels spawn with 15-20 units, while you only have 10. Sometimes, you use a backup because England spawned colonialism 15 times in a row, when France conquered Brittany and Calais, making it so Colonialism will never spread... (*cries from that terrible Portugal campaign*) and you even have 4 colonies in Brazil. Backup save files should remain tied to auto-saves, not the Save save.

Edit: A real question, is going to a backup considered hard cheating (not soft cheating) in Ironman? If so, I can understand their decision to make Backups unusable.
 
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I guess they did that especially because too many people savescummed in ironman. If you did a missclick, you can altF4, there has been no autosave because no day tick. Else, there might have been a day tick, but accept your decision and deal with the consequences, that's the idea of ironman.
 

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[..] what's the point of having backup saves at all [..] and as far as I am concerned, corrupt saves don't really happen.

It does not happen now! Some patchs earlier back up saves for some people where life saving. And at least on other paradox games, if you rage quitted (ALT+f4) the savegame would become corrupted because the game exits while trying to save (I lost a couple of HOI IV games that way.. and on the release version HOI did not have a backup savegame /facepalm..)

So yep, it still has their uses.
 

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It does not happen now! Some patchs earlier back up saves for some people where life saving. And at least on other paradox games, if you rage quitted (ALT+f4) the savegame would become corrupted because the game exits while trying to save (I lost a couple of HOI IV games that way.. and on the release version HOI did not have a backup savegame /facepalm..)

So yep, it still has their uses.

Well, considering I got EU4 by the 1.18 patch (But didn't really play until the Denmark Patch) I guess I wouldn't really know how EU4 functioned before then :confused:
 

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You can always make a copy of the save game files and place them in another folder before exiting the game
Or just name it something else