whats the point in forming nations ?

[quinntan2222]

It would be nice if the formation decisions gave cores like they did in EU3. Reconquest even gives AE now so it's not a free conquest anymore.

 

[mcmanusaur]

What is the point of playing video games anyway? It does not even make a difference in your tax, ideas etc.

i c wot u did thar

 

[AKronblad]

When you form a new nation / cultural union, you start out with no accepted cultures (losing Nowegian, Swedish and Hannoverian). Then the game checks, if you are eligible to GAIN new accepted cultures. You had enough provinces to RETAIN Hannoverian as accepted, but not to regain it (iirc you need 20% of total basetax for a new accepted culture and won't lose it unless you get below 10%). Swedish and Norwegian are accepted automatically, as you are the cultural union of the group (you don't get a notification about this).

Just to understand this right. When a country changes tag, does the game then clear all accepted cultures and thereafter recalculates which cultures are eligible as Accepted? Or does it simply recalculate (i.e., without clearing)?

Does it make a difference whether tag change involves a change in primary culture or not?

Asking since I'm looking at modding the Accepted Culture concept.

 

[Chieron]

Just to understand this right. When a country changes tag, does the game then clear all accepted cultures and thereafter recalculates which cultures are eligible as Accepted? Or does it simply recalculate (i.e., without clearing)?

Does it make a difference whether tag change involves a change in primary culture or not?

Asking since I'm looking at modding the Accepted Culture concept.

I think, you switch the tag (your provinces and units do too) and your previous nation ceases to exist. Thus it isn't actually a recalculation of accepted cultures..
I don't think that a primary culture change matters, though there are only Mughals and Prussia to test that? Get a Brandenburg to accept Pommeranian, lower the Pommeranian portion to 10-20%, then switch to Prussia. If you lose Pommeranian as accepted, it doesn't matter.

 

[AKronblad]

I think, you switch the tag (your provinces and units do too) and your previous nation ceases to exist. Thus it isn't actually a recalculation of accepted cultures..
I don't think that a primary culture change matters, though there are only Mughals and Prussia to test that? Get a Brandenburg to accept Pommeranian, lower the Pommeranian portion to 10-20%, then switch to Prussia. If you lose Pommeranian as accepted, it doesn't matter.

Ok, thanks, Chieron, for feedback! But you write in your earlier post that when changing tag, that new tag starts out with no Accepted Cultures. And then that the game thereafter checks whether the new tag is eligible to get any new Accepted Cultures. Is that correct? By recalculate I basically meant check.

(Apologies for the out-of-context questions btw. The reason for asking these "theoretical" questions is that I don't play vanilla, I mod.)

 

[Chieron]

Yes, that is what I expect and it seems compatible with the messages one receives. However, you could also test, what happens, if you add a decision that adds the cultural union without a tag change.