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I have 400 hours on CK2 but I still haven't done some major political coup or any big master plan (at least any memorable ones). I know there are a lots of AAR and threads dealing about these sort of crazy or mind-blowing stories here but I wanted to create a new thread that specializes on politics and master plans. It isn't supposed to be a collection or something. I just want to hear your stories, chill and think about the astonishing possibilities of such a game. So, what's the most Littlefinger-ish thing you've done ?
 

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Blatantly and obviously killing my infant nephew for the throne of England, then having my best friend the Pope instantly wipe away the stain of kinslayer. It might not be the most horrible thing I've ever done in the game*, but damn if it wasn't delicious.

*That'd be playing Concubines and Claim Wars.
 
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As doux of Smyrna, I kept spying on the Basileus, and the event fired where I kidnap him and put him in jail. I immediately formed the pretender faction for my claim, declared with no backers and thanks to him rotting in my prison, won after 1 second. After that, I kept revoking all his stuff from him :D
 

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Aside from the small village of Irish women, men, and children in my dungeons that are kept around for religious purposes (Blot), I take advantage of the tendency for my eager intrigue focused vassals to give me free jailing to rearrange my vassals with their lies and slander. If it's a noble family I want to cut down or remove from my lands, I'll either succeed in jailing or provoke a minor rebellion, in which I get the chance to strip away titles. I like striping away the most valuable title in a particular noble's de jure territory and giving it to a minor noble, prompting more potential rebellion down the road. Which erodes more power away from my target.

Nothing quite like bringing down old families and raising up minor nobles to power. Keeps things fresh and gives me a few more reliable men in my pocket.

Besides, every character in the game is out to get you. I no longer share any affection for any of them. They are weeds to be pulled when possible.
 
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Murdering my daughter's husband once she gave birth so his lands would pass into hands of my dynasty. And that was after assassinating every male (and their male offspring) ahead of my daughter's husband in the line of inheritance - he was fourth in line..so my daughter was able to marry him matrinlineally.

They were all dolts anyway.
 

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Successfully overthrowing the King of Lithuania as Emperor of Alba in favor of my crown prince. He was Romuva and tried to revoke some Catholic lords. I backed the rebels and occupied the whole country to force him to abdicate to his teenage son, then immediately declared war on the the little brat and made my prince the King of Liotuáin.
 

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As Sigurd Ring, I subjugated my cousin (or was it uncle) that ruled the area of dejure denmark (kingdom isn't formed yet at that time). He was old, and shortly after he died and his sons inherited. I then proceeded to assassinate both of my cousins, and all their children allowing me to inherit most of denmark as my domain greatly expanding my power.
 

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Come on, that's all you've got? I did things like these too. I was expecting something more spectacular from you guys, something deeper, a master plan. Something like starting as a count and growing strong , getting your ennemies to fight each other, create turmoil and use chaos "as a ladder" etc...
 

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One of my first games as Ireland had some great plots spanning 2 generations:

At some point, I won a crusade for Spain. I then managed to get my daughter married to a son of the Holy Roman Emperor (not the direct heir, but still an heir of a seizable portion of land).
So I landed my son-in-law, the Emperor died soon after, and I gained those lands (part of Germany).
THEN, by no doing of my own, my German son-in-law switches to heretic. Seeing a great opportunity to dismantle a gigantic vassal (he owned nearly half my realm), I went for free revoking. After a long and bloody civil war I imprison him and take his lands, redistributing them to loyal Irish Catholics.
But as it turned out, not just the Emperor's son had switched to Heretic, but so had the new Holy Roman Emperor. What followed was pure evil mastermind: The Pope called a Crusade on Germany. That kingdom that I owned half of. So I declared myself King of Germany, and just sat back as the rest of the Catholic world took Germany for me.

Then I started eating the Heretical Roman Empire from within with Holy Wars, until the Emperor had just a single Duchy deep within my own lands. With a large portion of the De Jure HRE owned by my loyal vassals, and the rest by countries that liked me, it was only a matter of waiting for the Emperor to die and be elected the new Emperor (I had lands in Spain, GB and the HRE, but nowhere enough to form my own empire)
 
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OK, nothing major, but as King of Lithuania (1220 chief of Memel start) I needed to expand into Ruthenia for reasons.
It was controlled by nomadic Golden Horde. So, I put my Chancellor (to spread dissatisfaction) and Spymaster (to make network) in Khagan's tent.
In 5-10 years two Khagans had to leave the World and power went into hands of weak Clan due to no eligible adult of ruling clan.
My brave Lithuanians declared immediately and conquered good chunk of Horde's lands before stronger clan could assume power.
 

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I once wiped out the royal family line in Norway in one of my earliest games of Ck2. I think they had just invaded England and was successful but I decided that I wanted to teach them a lesson and decided to keep on assassinating the royal family of Norway in 1066 start ( I forget the name of the family ) I did it so much that they lost power in Norway and became a minor count some time down the line. Good times good times.

I forget who i was playing as. Might of been the Holy Roman empire.. Not sure.But yeah pretty much wiped out a family until there was only 1 person left or so.They never did regain the throne of norway after that.
 

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In older version raided Holy Roman Empire for 4 generation taking as concubine and then marrying a sister/daughter of current Kaiser. It saved my ass a lot and made me basically conquer coastal france.
 

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This was... versions ago, from 2014, but still my most memorably brutal game... I posted about it at the time, but didn't want to drag up the old thread.
A game started as a custom Norse ruler in Brittany that went on to found a Norman dynasty spanning the western continent from within Germany to North Africa.


It was 1400 and Buliwyf X died young, after being maimed on a Crusade. The realm had gone primogeniture in the 1200s, so this left four year old Fredesende to serve as queen. I sent Fredesende to tutor with mom - Queen of Sicily - figuring mother, correct dynasty (she was in the same family, though distantly related), etc. would be helpful - I couldn't go traitless after all - but Fredesende became wroth, greedy, and perhaps envious.

Then factional pressure began to mount. My spymaster was busy as a bee, scheming people to behave. I had a nice bank of cash, and used it to keep mercenaries on staff, delaying factions. Then the first revolt, but I could see it coming and moved the retinues and mercenaries there preemptively and rapidly destroyed the faction leader's forces and then chased the others to ground.

Another, more dangerous, faction then developed to install an uncle on the throne. I was concerned enough that I undertook to see him dead, and he was murdered. But my plot was discovered, and Fredesende was named Kinslayer.

Another faction, another family member. Another murder.
Then another faction leader met his death "mysteriously".

A revolt, nearly unseated me, but was put down with liberal use of mercenaries.
The Pope offered to cleanse me of the kinslayer sin... Fredesende refused (out of spite). But gave him back papal investiture to buy off any excommunication.
A faction proposed a family member to rule in my stead. Then another. I couldn't 'scheme' fast enough. I turned to murder again, and they all fell to the knife, heading off each faction as it formed.

Finally married and gave birth... to a daughter.
Malus for queen, malus for female heir, malus for dishonorable, malus for kinslayer with dynasty members on every throne that mattered...

Bribe after bribe. Murder began to follow murder.

I knew there was no turning back when the game gave Fredesende the nickname of 'The Devil'.

And the murders piled up, one after another after another. Family members of all ages from Egypt to Aragon to Alba - dying green and bloated - old men, children in their minority, cousins so distant I barely knew why they even had a claim, nephews, nieces (once even the young girl I had as a ward to keep her father in line - I almost stayed the knife that time, just picturing her putting down the note from the spymaster and looking across the throne room at the poor child). I pictured each of them crying alone and begging as their relatives pushed them forward one by one onto the knife simply by whispering their name for the throne... I had to get a new, non-dynasty spymaster when I couldn't keep the current one from joining the very factions he was battling. I started scanning the claimant list, anticipating who would be next.

She was excommunicated, but rapidly paid to have that go away. The murders continued.

In all my games I have never seen such an orgy of violence. Without exaggeration it was easily dozens and dozens of murders. I lost count. For year after year, day after day, it was simply a matter of who to kill next.

But she was not going to let the unbroken line of rulers end before 1444 (and EUIV export) and Fredesende was a domineering angry woman who would not be put aside (yes, role playing this had firmly taken hold).

She finally had a son, but that hardly mattered anymore. The hate she had sown was too deep and too broad.

A powerful 70% faction was presenting the claim of her aunt - the wife of the King of Ireland & England. The fighting would start at any moment and all of Europe would rally to the cause of the rebels. It would be unwinnable. I was amazed that things had gone on so long, but she would not surrender. The order was made and the aunt died, as had all the others, and her name was again revealed.

The King of Ireland and England would not be denied, and in turn Fredesende was foully murdered to die cursing his name.

The coronation of the 2 month old King Joscelin of Aquitaine in 1426 was a healing balm on the nerves and sanity of all of Europe and the extended dynasty.

And that is the tale of Fredesende Smiðring, the first of her name, Queen of Aquitaine, and 'The Devil'.
 
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Steal France from the Karlings through superior marriage negotiations. My heir (and his siblings) actually got along just long enough to seal the deal. Three generations later I attempted the same in Britannia. There were... mixed results...
 

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The problem with performing plots worthy of Littlefinger is that the AI isn't smart enough to be tricked into thinking you're doing one thing when you're in fact doing something completely different.

The closest I've come was when I started a game as count of Fife in Scotland (because reasons) and was soon given the duchy of Alban by the king of Scotland. The next generation of rulers came about and somewhere inbetween succession had been changed to Elective Monarchy, courtesy of a faction. Turns out that the new king and my new duke were rivals. It also turned out that since my new duke was married to the daughter of the duke of Lothian he decided to vote for me rather than the king's underage son. There was only one other elector, the petty king of Suderyar and he was voting for himself. So I found myself with 2 votes (I was obviously voting for myself) and was made heir. And there was the shiny new "rivalry" CB that allows you to imprison a rival if you win a war against them. And if I had the king in my dungeon I could execute him and become king.

So I started the war and was winning when the AI suddenly pulled a move I never would've expected it to be capable of. The king of Scotland changed his vote from his son to the duke of Lothian. As a result my dead father-in-law decided that he doesn't want to vote for me anymore and would rather vote for himself. That made him the new heir, but as soon as that happened the king changed his vote again and voted for his son. Now with everyone voting for themselves the king's vote acted as a tie-breaker and the son was the new heir. I tried to get the duke of Lothian to change his vote again, but he refused to budge and kept voting for himself. So I turned around and started working on the petty king of Suderyar and after a bribe and some persuasion by my trusty chancellor he finally agreed to vote for me and I could execute my king and take his crown for myself.
 

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Byzantine game, married to Basil. Kill all of Basil's kids so that my kids (either by him or by his brother who I also killed) will rule the empire. Basil finds out on his last kid with whatserface, he doesn't hate me because love but it itches from an RP perspective so I kill him too (I'm spymaster btw) I become regent for my infant son. The fact that I killed his father and half-brother irks him but who cares, he's a kid. I continue as regent and spymaster till his 16th name day. All's well for a while but eventually an event fires where I can get a rival imprisoned if I show this false case against him to my liege (my son). now this guy was my rival because I killed his father because his father was part of a faction and he wouldn't leave so he had to die to maintain the unity of the empire.

So you'd think my son would understand and take this opportunity to trim the hedge of the evil house Whateverpholopolis BUT NO. He imprisons me. I offer to pay the ransom. My son is not interested in a ransom. The dowager empress leaves the dungeon but she never leaves the dark. She still has the best intrigue in the empire though so her son quickly offers her the position of spymaster back (no doubt because he sees now the legions his mother protected him from the ingrate but w/e). The nobles see the sightless Shadow of Sicily and think her tamed, she lets them, for a bit.

Eventually her spies let her know the time is right and she abducts her son, shortly thereafter she sweeps into Constantinople a letter from her son saying she should take control of the empire while he is absent (for an indefinite period of time) attending to the state of his soul. Her second stint as regent continues for like 10-15 years, not as smooth as the last time though. She got ousted more than once but each time she'd kill whoever was set in her place until they put her back.

Until one day when she was in her seventies she gets the depressed trait, outta the blue. I figure this is a sign to stop for a mo' and take stock. She was the queen of Africa (yes, inbetween the intriguing she also reconquered Sicily and then most of Africa), the dowager empress and the regent of the Byzantine empire. During her tenure as mystikos there had not been a single revolt from the nobility and the cost? Blood on her hands? Blood daubed all the way to her elbows maybe, seriously I stopped counting at 20. She killed the man she loved (she and Basil were lovers, before he caught her throttling his 3 year old anyway), she'd shoved her son in a hole for more than a decade and until that point had fantasized about whether she would cut out his eyes or smash his balls before eventually freeing him either way he'd pay for her sight and his insouciance.

Instead she just let him go, she resigned from her role as mystikos and she spent her last few years in Syrakousa. She and her son's relationship went into the green shortly before she died. Still died depressed tho.

That might have been more of a Varys story than a Littlefinger one or maybe just a generally ASoIaF story but meh.

867 is my favorite starting date prooobably cuz of being able to start like this. I've done it a bunch of times and it's never been dull 11/10 would recommend.
 
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Byzantine game, married to Basil. Kill all of Basil's kids so that my kids (either by him or by his brother who I also killed) will rule the empire. Basil finds out on his last kid with whatserface, he doesn't hate me because love but it itches from an RP perspective so I kill him too (I'm spymaster btw) I become regent for my infant son. The fact that I killed his father and half-brother irks him but who cares, he's a kid. I continue as regent and spymaster till his 16th name day. All's well for a while but eventually an event fires where I can get a rival imprisoned if I show this false case against him to my liege (my son). now this guy was my rival because I killed his father because his father was part of a faction and he wouldn't leave so he had to die to maintain the unity of the empire.

So you'd think my son would understand and take this opportunity to trim the hedge of the evil house Whateverpholopolis BUT NO. He imprisons me. I offer to pay the ransom. My son is not interested in a ransom. The dowager empress leaves the dungeon but she never leaves the dark. She still has the best intrigue in the empire though so her son quickly offers her the position of spymaster back (no doubt because he sees now the legions his mother protected him from the ingrate but w/e). The nobles see the sightless Shadow of Sicily and think her tamed, she lets them, for a bit.

Eventually her spies let her know the time is right and she abducts her son, shortly thereafter she sweeps into Constantinople a letter from her son saying she should take control of the empire while he is absent (for an indefinite period of time) attending to the state of his soul. Her second stint as regent continues for like 10-15 years, not as smooth as the last time though. She got ousted more than once but each time she'd kill whoever was set in her place until they put her back.

Until one day when she was in her seventies she gets the depressed trait, outta the blue. I figure this is a sign to stop for a mo' and take stock. She was the queen of Africa (yes, inbetween the intriguing she also reconquered Sicily and then most of Africa), the dowager empress and the regent of the Byzantine empire. During her tenure as mystikos there had not been a single revolt from the nobility and the cost? Blood on her hands? Blood daubed all the way to her elbows maybe, seriously I stopped counting at 20. She killed the man she loved (she and Basil were lovers, before he caught her throttling his 3 year old anyway), she'd shoved her son in a hole for more than a decade and until that point had fantasized about whether she would cut out his eyes or smash his balls before eventually freeing him either way he'd pay for her sight and his insouciance.

Instead she just let him go, she resigned from her role as mystikos and she spent her last few years in Syrakousa. She and her son's relationship went into the green shortly before she died. Still died depressed tho.

That might have been more of a Varys story than a Littlefinger one or maybe just a generally ASoIaF story but meh.

867 is my favorite starting date prooobably cuz of being able to start like this. I've done it a bunch of times and it's never been dull 11/10 would recommend.
But in this way it's gameover when you'll die.
 

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Had a masterplan that went far into the future, but this character changed it all. Conan II Cerneu, Duke of Cornwall.

Started in 1066, Stamford Bridge. Originally, I wanted to support the de Normandie until they got an English empire of Britannia while I would happily plot and reign the four Celtic kingdoms as a Briton. But Conan changed that.

An ambitious brilliant strategist, since his ascension as Tanist he had conquered half of Ireland and secured Deheubarth, what his predecessor hadn't achieved. The Normandie were in charge, and he supported their reign as loyal marshal. Even if king Robert 'the Beheader' was as nice as his nickname suggested, cruel Conan and he were good friends with a similar view on reigning.

When Robert died, his underage son, Wulfstan, born as a bastard, but grown to be Norman, ascended the throne. All was well. Until young Wulfstan decided that his Anglo-Saxon Godwin guardian had a great culture. This was the end of my plan, and the start of Conan's.

Unacceptable, Conan supported Wulfstan's younger daughter Gohilda for the throne, a good Norman. Always allied with the Hwicce, now united ruler of Mercia and York, he tried to reason with Wulfstan, but not for long. The Anglo-Saxons were crushed, Gohilda installed.

In recognition for his service, Conan became regent. And soon, he was obsessed with this new power. The Anglo-Saxons noticed and tried to support their own candidates, but while Gohilda's army was depleted, Cornwall's forces were numerous and strong, and the Hwicce supported their ally's choice.

Most dukes ended up in prison. Gohilda reached the age of six when Conan took matters into his own hands. She was betrothed to his son, and educated in the Breton culture. Nobody could oppose the marshal-regent.

When he died at 69, Gohilda was still young, but the future of England, or rather Lloegyr, sealed. Conan II Cerneu restored it for the Britons.
 
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