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Having a revolter excommunicated, imprisoned, blinded, imprisoned, castrated, executed. Then the same with all of his heirs until there was no more of his dynasty. An example to the rest of what happens when a vassal breaks his feudal contract with the emperor. And all of this without tyranny.
Doesn't this hurt your stats so bad it works against you? By being both a kinslayer and a tyrant you would get very little income from your vassals? Or am I showing my ignorance of gameplay again?
While playing Game of Thrones mod months back, I captured the Lannister's king's heir, and his son. I castrated both of them, killed the current king in combat, thus ending the Casterly Rock line of House Lannister.
This isn't horrible per se and is kind of close to an AAR, but I basically exploited game mechanics to spread my dynasty throughout Europe and become the most powerful individual in the game, without actually using any cheats or save scumming. This was prior to the Conclave DLC, so I don't know if it still works.
I started out as Rothard Welf, the Count of Lorraine and Sundgau during the Charlemagne start date. Through the normal claim fabrication and shrewd war declaration I conquered Nordgau and achieved independence within Charlie's Francia from the duchy of Allemania and proclaimed myself Duke of Alsace in 800. Conquests in this manner continued of the duchies of Upper and Lower Lorraine, which the son of Rothard held in 829, with which I declared myself King of Alsace-Lorraine (don't like Lotharangia), after achieving independence from a weakened West Francia, thanks to Gavelkind inheritance in Francia.
The part where I started to exploit the mechanics was thanks to Eugenics and the Elective Monarchy Succession. I groomed all my heirs for Stewardship and picked the Rulership Focus for all my rulers, whilst ensuring that my most promising child was married off to a genius. Not spectacular in itself, until you realize that the high Stewardship, combined with a centralized realm allowed me to have a very large demesne, so large in fact that I was able to manage all 9 counties of the Kingdom by myself, which in turn meant I had not vassals eligible to cast a vote for my successor but me. Whilst only 2 out of my 11 kings thus far were geniuses, they only had positive nicknames, like "the just" and "the wise". The excess sons I married off to female rulers to spread my dynasty.
Whilst this made my realm incredibly stable, it also made it incredibly wealthy and strong. Thus I was delighted when Crusades became a thing, as I forcefully spread my dynasty across infidel kingdoms. As holding more titles would interfere with my succession strategy however, I decided to grant them independence under Welf kings. However before doing all that I ensured that I upgraded my kingdom to an empire, which gave me a higher demesne limit and thus was also able to absorb the duchy of Luxembourg with all its holdings.
And thus here I am in the year 1127. All my empty holdings have been built into cities and I thus now have a realm size of 57, with a demesne size of 13 and no vassals beyond baron-tier.
My dynasty has held thus far:
4 times an Empire title
44 times a Kingdoms title
129 times a Duchy title
364 times a County title
134 times a Barony title
which gives my dynasty a prestige score of 4284
Currently members of my Dynasty hold (sometimes multiple titles at once):
Empire of Alsace-Lorraine
Empire of Carpathia
Kingdom of Alsace-Lorraine
Kingdom of Andalusia
Kingdom of Asturias
Kingdom of Bavaria
Kingdom of Castille
Kingdom of France
Kingdom of Galicia
Kingdom of Navarra
Kingdom of Panonia
Kingdom of Portugal
and a myriad of counties, duchies and baronies
My Empire can field around 32k troops, if all levies are ready and additionally a retinues of 500 Light Cavalry and 750 Heavy Cavalry. My Empire generates 765 gold a year in profit. This makes me strong enough to win basically any war, even win against a Jihad mostly on my own (save for a few allied stacks that constantly get wiped by the enemy) and wealthy enough bankroll any war I take an interest in.
As said before this isn't cruel or horrible per se, but I am ruthlessly spreading my dynasty throughout Europe and if you only look wrong at one of my family members, then I will bring your entire family down and replace them with my own.
I don't have the energy to write a full AAR on this, thus I avoided posting there and instead wrote this here.
My current (and thus far best) ruler and a dynasty map showing the extend of the Welf dynasty thus far:
My own little demesne/realm:
We are actually still not the most prestigious dynasty, but as the Isaurian dynasty has been toppled within the Byzantine Empire (bankrolled by me), we should soon hold that honour:
Well its probably not the most horrible thing I've ever done, but the most horrible thing I've done recently was during a Byzantine game during a revolt. I had just taken a revolting vassal's castle and, unusually, managed to get a hold of his wife, all seven of his children (not all from the same mother of course, the guy had been married once before, and one was a legitimized bastard), and his mother. So naturally, I executed all of them. Then when I won the war and took the duke prisoner, I castrated him, so that he would know that his line would die with him. Two years later, he was dead, and the duchy went on to his brother, who of course wasted no time in leading another revolt (he was a bit mad about the whole killing his mother and castrating his brother thing). Unfortunately, I was unable to get a hold of any of his children, but I did castrate him irregardless.
Back in the day I used to murder-plot my way to different titles. Can't do that anymore after they added in the varied death sounds. It just makes me want to cry.
Doesn't this hurt your stats so bad it works against you? By being both a kinslayer and a tyrant you would get very little income from your vassals? Or am I showing my ignorance of gameplay again?
If you do it when you're old it's not that bad. Before Conclave rulership to get depressed then all the tyranny before suicide was what I did to get around gavlekind when desperate.
Back in 2.5.1, I started playing as a norman count. It was a nice until I got married because ALL frenchmen in the entire realm of Francia wanted to "pay my wife a visit". After the 5th time (I'm not even joking...) I had enough, so I went ahead and slaughtered the entirety of the french nobility... and their sons... and their sons...
Sometimes I still hear them screaming in my dreams...
crap haha, I suck at villainy.... i wasnt even able to execute a bunch of vikings taken prisioner while trying to raid my capital without the game treathening me about incurring in tyranny...apparently, you gotta execute them right away, otherwise the game turns them into your courtiers...they wont leave even if you free them..
One of the guys in the oubliette managed to survive there four no less than 14 years, went lunatic and then my ruler died, so my wicked impaler marshal brother took over as doge, and decided to show some mercy by freeing him..after getting him blinded, of course...he stayed at court I think, like some kind of piece of human furniture..
Make a tributary, when my King was 18 years old.
Now, I can do NOTHING with this! They can even FIGHT WITH ME[religion defence], but this will not end tributary...
Doesn't this hurt your stats so bad it works against you? By being both a kinslayer and a tyrant you would get very little income from your vassals? Or am I showing my ignorance of gameplay again?
I was the king of france an i found out that my wife has cheated me. It was very probably that my oldest son was a bastard. I my oldest son and his both sons. I leave the womens allive because i had agnatic primogeniture.
In my current game i am the zar of the russian empire. I killed my oldest son, just because he was not good in fighting. The secound son is better.
But i kill very often someone in my games. I kill every less importent person how tried to seduce a married women. I very often kill the leader of a rebellion. I kill heretrics when i have a small reason. Or just imprison them and throw them in the dungeon. They normally die very quick in my dungeons.
My characters sister was a genius and I was pretty shit, I got the depressed trait and decided to kill myself so she could inherit but I just had my first son. So I killed my newborn son then killed myself.
My characters sister was a genius and I was pretty shit, I got the depressed trait and decided to kill myself so she could inherit but I just had my first son. So I killed my newborn son then killed myself.
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