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What's the most horrible thing you've done in this game?

For my current game, I decided to take inspiration from Count Dracula of Transylvania and Vlad the Impaler of Wallachia.

So I decided to play as a Transylvanian count, the Count of Feher, who ruled over the only Vlach (Wallachian) county in the Kingdom of Hungary. My game's mission would be to break free, establish an independent Vlach state and assume the title of King of Wallachia.

After a couple of centuries, I was a Vlach grand duke and the most powerful vassal in the Hungarian Kingdom. I was also playing as one of the best rulers my dynasty had ever produced, with strong stats and only positive traits. He was also a cool guy, a Games Master who'd ascended to the throne at a young age and had long presided over a prosperous and happy land. Everyone loved him and he was probably my favourite ruler (in a positive, salutary sense, at least).

Then my liege, the King of Hungary, suddenly died and I found myself as Regent to his heir, a new boy-king. Having the "quick" trait, the young lad looked like he would grow up to become a great ruler.

Some time passed and the king got betrothed to a royal daughter from a Kingdom I border to my North, and bigger and more powerful than my own. The betrothal, of course, meant that this kingdom was now in an alliance with my Hungarian overlord. Following that, news came through that the king had also allied with another powerful kingdom to my South.

These developments were very bad news for me. After a couple of centuries of building up my domain, I was finally at a point where I was powerful enough to be ready to launch my war of independence. But only if I fought the Kingdom of Hungary loyalists on their own. With these alliances, a declaration of war would now see my army outnumbered several times to one and, with the King of Hungary being so young, I might not get a chance to break free for decades.

So I did something horrible.

I did my own version of the "Princes in the Tower". As Regent, I had close proximal access to my young ward and so it was not hard to get a high plotting intrigue score. I only needed to bring in my Spymaster and one other local noble to the plot for things to proceed quickly. The young boy-king had an accident in the woods and no-one suspected anything (or at least that's what the game told me). Of crucial importance to my plans, this meant Hungary's alliances were now dissolved and I could finally break free and form my own kingdom.

I still have feelings of guilt, especially since it occured under the guardianship of my favourite ruler. But the king died for the greater cause of Wallachia (although I don't think that would have given him much comfort).
 
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That wasn't so bad! Still a shame though....

The worst thing I've done must've been the time I found out my wife was cheating on me.

I divorced her, imprisoned her, murdered all of her dynasty, and then forced her into concubinage.

Years later, when she got old and infertile, I had executed.
 
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Sadly this isn't EU4, so I can't say "playing as France", but I have a nasty habit that when I play tribals or other people that can get concubines, I tend to keep small girls in prison until they grow up - sometimes for all 16 years of growing up - and then keep them as my chief's bedwarmers.
I'm pretty sure half of you done worse though.
 
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Sadly this isn't EU4, so I can't say "playing as France", but I have a nasty habit that when I play tribals or other people that can get concubines, I tend to keep small girls in prison until they grow up - sometimes for all 16 years of growing up - and then keep them as my chief's bedwarmers.
I'm pretty sure half of you done worse though.

Oh my gosh, I do that too! I never really thought about how awful that was until now....
 
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I once had an affair with my own daughter from a previous affair. I didn't know it at first as she wasn't marked as mine but after a bit when I noticed who her mother was I got suspicious and used charinfo to confirm it.
 
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I once had an affair with my own daughter from a previous affair. I didn't know it at first as she wasn't marked as mine but after a bit when I noticed who her mother was I got suspicious and used charinfo to confirm it.
Pff. Once when I was playing a King with Lustful trait I had a random event fire and I ended up with my own bastard daughter. Willingly. Beat that.
 
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Pff. Once when I was playing a King with Lustful trait I had a random event fire and I ended up with my own bastard daughter. Willingly. Beat that.
I will. I had affair with my bastard daughter, married her to neighbour, and murdered said neighbour with her help to get her back.:p

Edit: Pretty sure I cheated on that game, if that changes anything. .
 
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I will. I had affair with my bastard daughter, married her to neighbour, and murdered said neighbour with her help to get her back.:p
Ok, you win.
 
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In 2.3.x, as the emperor of Francia I slowly began a plan to destroy Byzantium by incest. After marrying one child off to the future Bassileus, I married off a bunch of dynasts to anybody slightly in the line of succession. I then married off younger children of mine to my grandchildren in the ERE, all while keeping my family in Francia incest free. Even when my dynasty ended up on the throne of the ERE, I kept this up. Shockingly, despite numerous and interconnecting loops in their family tree, nobody became inbred.

Anyways, this being the ERE in 2.3.x, eventually my inbred (without the trait), Bassileus dynast became the Ecumenical Patriarch. After realizing how awful that bug was (previously my heir somehow became dual heir of the ERE as well and could never inherit) I spent the next half century causing plots to kill each new Ecumenical Bassileus Patriarch. Apparently, being under a new theocratic ruler was not cool with his vassals because I never had to pay to get 500%+ plot power for each new guy.


In other games, I usually imprison and kill off my non-heir children when I have to deal with Gavelkind succession.
 
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Probably tame by comparison, but I once invited a former pope to my kingdom, then had him killed for his inhertance.

Additionally, earlier in my current game when I conquered Georgia as a Tengri ruler I forced the king's wife and daughter into concubinage.
 
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Ages ago, 1066 Start, Barcelona, Agnatic Primo. Eldest son was an Imbecile, Second son a genius. Murdered oldest boy...

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I disinherited my firstborn son, then deliberately duelled my second born, to kill him, so my third born would become my heir. Sad thing is, they were all brilliant strategists - the third born just had slightly higher martial stats.
It haunts me to this day.
 
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When I play as a twin(Boy,Girl) most of the time I incest ;)


Im Asoiaf fan so its ok, right?
If you play as Zoroastrian I don't see a problem.
 
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Mmh, I didn't want to post something classic, but something just came up... My wife has been hurt in war. She's a beautiful 24 byzantine princess.

I'm sorry my love, but I can't stay married with a disabled wife who can't reproduce any more, and the Pope doesn't want to grant me a divorce... You will have to die.
 
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I regularly wipe out families that offend me. When Greek this leads to lots of castrated men knowing they'll be the last of their once great dynasty. So put me down for mass murder and cruel torture×1000.
 
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Well, my playstyle is pragmatic villainy: life's easier when important people don't hate you. But I did something really nasty to a vassal today, though I think the guy had it coming. I completely humiliated and destroyed the Earl of Cataibh today because I was pissed at him for screwing up my shift to primogeniture by getting caught trying to bang my queen and becoming my rival.

I dueled him and left him wounded, planted an army in Cataibh and then ordered his title revoked, captured half his family in the ensuing sieges and forced him to ransom them until he ran out of cash, then revoked his title, stuck him in the oubliette, and promptly forgot he'd ever existed.

And the moral of the story is: never hit on Rián II's wife. That is, the wife he actually loves, not the one he totally didn't send over a cliff in a carriage. :p (Rián II married her as Earl of Leon, before he inherited the kingdom. What is it with the AI and picking spouses with cruddy stats and no good pacts?)
 
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Nobody ever killed off an entire family just to get one more trade post?
I've done that if I change culture and someone is reluctant to follow the trend, so to speak. Also yeah, if some ass horns in on my trade posts.

In AGoT, where Cruel unlocked the Byzantine prison intrigues, I once had a Genius daughter as my firstborn, and lavished all of my attention on her. Sadly, neither of my three later sons were biologically of any account, so as soon as the maester would bring them in their swaddling cloths, I'd motion to the jailer and have them snipped. In my defense, her stats were way better...
 
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