What's the best way to kill a center of reformation not in a capital?

[Mindel]

Ingolstadt has three provinces, with a reformed center of reformation in one (not their capital). If I attack them and take two provinces (leaving them with only the center of reformation) and force them to convert in the same peace deal, will this kill the center of reformation?

 

[bokorthedust]

IIRC it won't, you are better off short trucing him in the first war and then converting him in the second if you won't have an opportunity to get to war with him indirectly in the meantime.

 

[Vetgirig]

Remember OPMs is the best HRE members. So make as many as possible.

I guess you can force Ingolstadt to release some new nation.

Then when that nation gets an alliance - attack the alliance and force convert nation.

Or even make Ingolstadt remove all allies so need new allies so you have someone who has no truce timer you can attack.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

If you can take the province, you can usually convert it. I destroyed a couple centers that way in the Mulhouse run I did.

Center of reformation is -5%, you get a base of 2%, 2% from inquisitor, and 1% from state edict by default. To get positive conversion strength, you then only need enough strength from decisions and ideas to overcome the modifier from development.

Since you can get another 1% from estate and will almost certainly have multiple decisions giving some strength, it is very likely that you will convert it faster using a missionary than you can convert it by making it the last province of target and then executing a follow-up war, even without religious ideas.

 

[RMS Oceanic]

Ingolstadt has three provinces, with a reformed center of reformation in one (not their capital). If I attack them and take two provinces (leaving them with only the center of reformation) and force them to convert in the same peace deal, will this kill the center of reformation?

Yes it will. Originally using Force Religion changed the religion of the capital before it changes hands, meaning it's handed over to you with your religion. The order has been updated that it changes the religion of the new capital after all provinces have changed hands, so if you can guarantee their capital will be the Center of Reformation, Force Religion will change it.

 

[bokorthedust]

Yes it will. Originally using Force Religion changed the religion of the capital before it changes hands, meaning it's handed over to you with your religion. The order has been updated that it changes the religion of the new capital after all provinces have changed hands, so if you can guarantee their capital will be the Center of Reformation, Force Religion will change it.

When was that introduced?

 

[Siddy00]

When was that introduced?

I was wondering the same. Apparently 1.31.1 (https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Patch_1.31.X#1.31.1):

• Demanding a country's capital and forcing religion on them changes religion in their new capital instead of their old one.

 

[bokorthedust]

I was wondering the same. Apparently 1.31.1 (https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Patch_1.31.X#1.31.1):

Must have forgotten that, thanks.