What's paradox most popular franchise?(not counting Cities)

[fabius]

I've considered just saying yes and then quoting lines from Walter from the Big Lebowski, but that never ends well:

Besides, all I need is for some student to hear me say I was in Vietnam, then report me to a newspaper as a liar. That would do wonders for my employment opportunities.

I worked with an older guy who the women assumed he'd been in WW2. So he would occasionally say oh the bloody German fighters this and that.... I got to know him and knew that his specialism in the RAF was Cricket ... so worked out is date of birth and saw that he was 11 year old when shooting Luftwaffe out of the sky.... from the pavilion

Yeah, little while ago there was a report about how many Nam vets never even been to Nam, let along in-country with the infantry.

 

[Secret Master]

Don't generalize the catastrophic history knowledge among US student to the rest of the world population

I've had an international student ask these kinds of questions. Ignorance is apparently global.

 

[Beagá]

Just been seeing some videos on youtube.. and people just talk about EU 4 and CK2 and keep saying HoI series is more complex and hard to get into? maybe it's me but I always found HoI simpler to learn compared to EU 4, Victoria and CK2.

I also always thought HoI franchise was the most popular and it was with HoI 2 that paradox started getting more popular...

Did HoI 3 out sold all previous titles same for HoI 2?

Am I wrong or was there anyone else that experience the same especially compared to HoI 2 for example?

Well you thought wrong.

HOI 3 suffers from multitasking, micro management hell, and a fragmented province model which makes keeping track of battles a pain AND winning individual batles far less rewarding. Even worse because there are sea, land AND air battles.

If battles become a pain or nuisance, the game itslef becomes a pain, as it is 80% built around combat. The option of making the AI play the tiny battles exist, but then you have to filter WHICH battles are irrelevant, and which aren´t.

 

[Kovax]

I have played HOI3 and been able to build most of the units that the theatre says I need.....

There's your problem, believing the stupid Theater requests. That's a good way to insure a terrible force balance. The AI wants the most expensive of everything, so you end up with a bunch of Strategic Bombers of questionable value that get shot down for lack of Interceptors, and expensive Armor that doesn't have sufficient Infantry to back it up. Building a realistic force balance gave you much better results.

HOI3's biggest issues were with an abysmal tutorial, a manual that quickly became obsolete, tooltips and descriptions which often gave misleading information, and bad publicity from a seriously flawed (almost unplayable) initial release. Aside from that, once it was patched, it was a pretty good game, just a pain to learn because of the documentation issues.

As for education and public knowledge, I overheard one of the local kids explaining US history to his Hispanic neighbor who was hoping to gain US citizenship. The brief summary was to the effect that George Washington started the First World War to free the slaves. It pretty much stopped me cold in my tracks.

That's only marginally worse than the conversation between two piano movers, where the first was unbolting the legs on a grand piano. The second commented about the piano logo, "Kawai? Never heard of them." The first guy: "Brought to you by the same people who brought you Pearl Harbor." The second: "Funny, it doesn't sound German." My expectations on human behavior have subsequently been lowered as a result.

 

[Caesar15]

Don't assume that people who lack basic knowledge of, let's say, history, are stupid though. I know plenty of smart people who don't know basic history.

 

[Secret Master]

Don't assume that people who lack basic knowledge of, let's say, history, are stupid though. I know plenty of smart people who don't know basic history.

Did I use the word stupid?

I used the word ignorance. Ignorance is something that can be corrected by learning the appropriate information. I wouldn't call my students stupid. It's why they are in my classes, after all.

 

[Daelyn75]

Did I use the word stupid?

I used the word ignorance. Ignorance is something that can be corrected by learning the appropriate information. I wouldn't call my students stupid. It's why they are in my classes, after all.

I was pretty shocked at the age of 15 in 1991 that no one had ever heard of Pearl Harbor. It was December 7th, the 50 year anniversary, and I was practically laughed at for knowing this information.

Twenty four years on, I doubt people are more aware of it. I was into history at a young age, and as far as I know, none of my peers had the same level of knowledge that I had. In my grade 12 history class I corrected the teacher on several facts, and things he missed out on World War II. Needless to say I never earned such a high mark for a course before.

When we come to the boards here, we are in an echo chamber. It's easy to assume that a lot of things discussed are commonly known. When in reality we are a very small minority that knows all this war information.

 

[Caesar15]

Did I use the word stupid?

I used the word ignorance. Ignorance is something that can be corrected by learning the appropriate information. I wouldn't call my students stupid. It's why they are in my classes, after all.

Uh, I wasn't talking to you specifically, hence why I didn't quote your post. I was simply making a statement as I am certain people who have read your post might say "wow, stupid people these days".

 

[Secret Master]

Uh, I wasn't talking to you specifically, hence why I didn't quote your post. I was simply making a statement as I am certain people who have read your post might say "wow, stupid people these days".

Ah, I misunderstood what you were getting at.

 

[Caesar15]

Ah, I misunderstood what you were getting at.

Yeah that's alright, I apologize for the confusion.

 

[cdub8d]

Yeah that's alright, I apodgize for the confusion.

I really wish there were more people like you two that can actually apologize when they are wrong or do something wrong.

 

[Caesar15]

I really wish there were more people like you two that can actually apologize when they are wrong or do something wrong.

Well it helps that he's a moderator

 

[cdub8d]

Well it helps that he's a moderator

Haha still! I really hate browsing toxic forums. "Cough" world of tanks "cough" so many obnoxious and rude people that feel their opinion in fact. I love how the paradox community is USUALLY really nice people.

 

[GermanPower]

HOI4 is most likely going to do better then all of those games. I'm just guessing. But I bet it'll explode better then Ck2 and EU4

 

[wingo]

Haha still! I really hate browsing toxic forums. "Cough" world of tanks "cough" so many obnoxious and rude people that feel their opinion in fact. I love how the paradox community is USUALLY really nice people.

Unless they talk about things they want/don't want in the game, then it's the same opinion=fact thing

 

[Daelyn75]

HOI4 is most likely going to do better then all of those games. I'm just guessing. But I bet it'll explode better then Ck2 and EU4

It's hard to do that with digital copies. Unless you can get the physical game boxes then this experiment will be impossible!

 

[Beagá]

I was pretty shocked at the age of 15 in 1991 that no one had ever heard of Pearl Harbor. It was December 7th, the 50 year anniversary, and I was practically laughed at for knowing this information.

Twenty four years on, I doubt people are more aware of it. I was into history at a young age, and as far as I know, none of my peers had the same level of knowledge that I had. In my grade 12 history class I corrected the teacher on several facts, and things he missed out on World War II. Needless to say I never earned such a high mark for a course before.

When we come to the boards here, we are in an echo chamber. It's easy to assume that a lot of things discussed are commonly known. When in reality we are a very small minority that knows all this war information.

Sad, but true.

Many people here have zero clue about what Brazil did in WW2, not to mention the war with Paraguay. So I suppose it can be worse than US elsewhere, trust me

 

[Mannstien]

I was pretty shocked at the age of 15 in 1991 that no one had ever heard of Pearl Harbor. It was December 7th, the 50 year anniversary, and I was practically laughed at for knowing this information.

Twenty four years on, I doubt people are more aware of it. I was into history at a young age, and as far as I know, none of my peers had the same level of knowledge that I had. In my grade 12 history class I corrected the teacher on several facts, and things he missed out on World War II. Needless to say I never earned such a high mark for a course before.

When we come to the boards here, we are in an echo chamber. It's easy to assume that a lot of things discussed are commonly known. When in reality we are a very small minority that knows all this war information.

Three cheers, sadly I wasn't able to make it to my favorite WW2 weekend in Reading this year due to a family emergency but it is sad so many have forgotten something that cost so many so much....But here we are to do just such which I intend to continue odd ball though I might be in society. I will add that the event in Reading usually brings some 30,000-40,000 people each year and there are always very knowledgeable reenactor their to tell me everything they know about the units they represent and equipment they bring with them. Theirs Canadians, Nationalist China, Russian, German, American Airborne Marines Army Air force, British, Scots, and I've even seen some Japanese in camps (I'm probably forgetting a few as there are so many). True many are Americans but they do not for a second step out of character, they all sleep in the tents in the early hot June sun or in the rain, eat at their impromptu mess halls and for 3 days live as close as they can like those they represent, it's quite heart warming to know there are still quite a few out there whom do so and I see younger generations in the mix.

 

[krieger11b]

I don't think that HOI lends itself to let's plays like EUIV does. HOI is designed around a world war and to try and explain everything you are doing and planning when fighting in a huge amount of places is very hard to do and keep the viewers interested and even understanding the complete situation in the game. Plus countries fighting to the last province like the widely spread out UK or deep USSR gets to be a bit dull after a while when it's a tedious mop up operations. Things like EU and CK you can have smaller wars and it's battle system is so much simpler than HOI. Logistics are not nearly as complicated in in EU/CK like HOI is. EU/CK let's play are fun to watch people slowly gobble up their neighbors over a long period of time, rather than fight half the world all at once, in every corner of the planet.

 

[Secret Master]

Yeah that's alright, I apologize for the confusion.

I really wish there were more people like you two that can actually apologize when they are wrong or do something wrong.

Eh, I don't even see this as worthy of an apology. I'm the one read something into the post that wasn't there (I'm a bit sensitive about calling students stupid since it's usually not the case and only interferes with learning...). It's one reason I get more mileage out of the word ignorance than most people. Heck, maybe I should apologize for being a bit too defensive.

But the sentiment of etiquette and civility is right on.