What's a "great power"?

[volseraph]

In my Friesland game, I'm angling for an alliance with France, and I look at my relations list and...

I have one province, a two-province vassal, and a handful of German minor allies. What on earth is making France consider me a "competing great power"?

 

[Xara]

It's your score income. You're in 19th place, so you must have been doing something right. Anyone in the top (whatever) of current score income is among the "Great Powers". If a nation drops a lot in score income (stability goes to crap, their whole army / navy wiped out, etc.) they'll lose great power status until they recover.

 

[TolHydra]

I couldn't tell, I remember them considering me as a great power only after when I took Holland. Also been playing Friesland and so far one advice:

Do not form netherlands. It puts you in a diplomatic limbo for alliance as in -19k malus for distance.

 

[Xara]

Do not form netherlands. It puts you in a diplomatic limbo for alliance as in -19k malus for distance.

Just exit the game and restart.

 

[dav77-b]

Do you found some valid tactics to conquer England as Friesland?

 

[TolHydra]

Just exit the game and restart.

If only that worked >.>

 

[Aries666]

Winning a tough war can give you enough military score to be considered a great power which is pretty annoying if you are only a small country looking for allies.

 

[IIWW]

It's your score income. You're in 19th place, so you must have been doing something right. Anyone in the top (whatever) of current score income is among the "Great Powers". If a nation drops a lot in score income (stability goes to crap, their whole army / navy wiped out, etc.) they'll lose great power status until they recover.

Not quite, there is often some wierdness about it.

Spoiler

and that's just after being formed, 5 provinces, no army, no navy, no score. Sometimes You have to wait for monthly tic till it disappears, if it's still there even though the score implies a country shouldn't be considered GP try to restart the game

 

[balmung60]

If only that worked >.>

I managed to resolve it for myself by console integrating and releasing a few OPMs.