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I really don't understand, I am not an expert, but, really, what is this obsession with playable pagans? The pagan religions were on their way out, past their prime, etc. I do know from reading here that some pagans hung around for some time, but they were all forced out by organized religion. I look at this as the natural order of things. Pagan religions lost to organized religions because organized religions were ... organized, effective, seductive, offered hope for a better life beyond the mortal plane etc.

I do not mean to sound combative, I just don't understand the huge following that the pagan religions seem to have on the forums. I could see the introduction of playable pagans if the game started in the 9th century or so when the Vikings were in their heyday.
 

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Fatimid Invasion's of Greece that need parts of Greece conquered.Not Just 9 villages in Anatolia.Before AI Byzantine Emperor surrenders his entire Empire.

(I was playing Doux of Achea,THIS IS SPARTA!)
 

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I really don't understand, I am not an expert, but, really, what is this obsession with playable pagans? The pagan religions were on their way out, past their prime, etc. I do know from reading here that some pagans hung around for some time, but they were all forced out by organized religion. I look at this as the natural order of things. Pagan religions lost to organized religions because organized religions were ... organized, effective, seductive, offered hope for a better life beyond the mortal plane etc.

I do not mean to sound combative, I just don't understand the huge following that the pagan religions seem to have on the forums. I could see the introduction of playable pagans if the game started in the 9th century or so when the Vikings were in their heyday.

If rampant Byzophilism, world conquests as native americans in EU3, and making the Zulu a Great Power in Vicky 2 has taught me anything, the Paradox forums love an underdog.
 

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"Staging areas" for Crusades. Basically some way of making crusading armies all stop in Genoa/Venice so they can all go to the Holy Land together, instead of 50 different minor counts sending in their 300-man armies independently and getting massacred by the Fatimid doomstack.
 

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More Prisoners of War. I destroy 3 muslim armies with 50000 men, no one escapes and after 7 battles I get one prisoner ...

And a stronger France, which cannot be conquered by north African minor kings in the early game.
 

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And a stronger France, which cannot be conquered by north African minor kings in the early game.

An idea.

Vassals retain a portion of their levies, perhaps when being Holy War'd, or Jihaded, one should be able to raise 100% of their unit capacity? It'd allow nations like France to draw far more manpower in times when it would've been given.
 

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An idea.

Vassals retain a portion of their levies, perhaps when being Holy War'd, or Jihaded, one should be able to raise 100% of their unit capacity? It'd allow nations like France to draw far more manpower in times when it would've been given.

France needs to be stronger. England and France are roughly equal at a time when France should dwarf England in everything.
 

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I really don't understand, I am not an expert, but, really, what is this obsession with playable pagans? The pagan religions were on their way out, past their prime, etc. I do know from reading here that some pagans hung around for some time, but they were all forced out by organized religion. I look at this as the natural order of things. Pagan religions lost to organized religions because organized religions were ... organized, effective, seductive, offered hope for a better life beyond the mortal plane etc.

I do not mean to sound combative, I just don't understand the huge following that the pagan religions seem to have on the forums. I could see the introduction of playable pagans if the game started in the 9th century or so when the Vikings were in their heyday.

Internet types have always been obsessed with pagans. It's probably got to do with their concomitant disdain for christianity and their desire to crush WEAK christians under the BRUTAL FIST of the WARRIOR PAGAN VIKINGS or somesuch. Add in a few genuine Asatru and you've got a huge whinefest.
 

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Internet types have always been obsessed with pagans. It's probably got to do with their concomitant disdain for christianity and their desire to crush WEAK christians under the BRUTAL FIST of the WARRIOR PAGAN VIKINGS or somesuch. Add in a few genuine Asatru and you've got a huge whinefest.

Playable pagans is about as realistic as playable Byzantines. More realistic than Norwegians retaking England or Sicily staying Muslim. The more avenues we have the better. Not as though Aztecs aren't playable in EU3.
 

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Internet types have always been obsessed with pagans. It's probably got to do with their concomitant disdain for christianity and their desire to crush WEAK christians under the BRUTAL FIST of the WARRIOR PAGAN VIKINGS or somesuch. Add in a few genuine Asatru and you've got a huge whinefest.
I don't care about Vikings myself, with their lame ass longboats and raping. I prefer the bear-worshiping, mushroom-eating shamans of Suomenusko who you could almost call proto-hippies :p

EDIT: In 1.08 I want to be able to edit and create succession laws, and I want to have women leading armies if a modder so wishes.
 
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I guess this suggestion appeared already a zillion times, but whatever... I'd LOVE to see a complex conclave system, with the pope being chosen from already existing high-ranking clergymen instead of some random bloke...
 

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I really don't understand, I am not an expert, but, really, what is this obsession with playable pagans? The pagan religions were on their way out, past their prime, etc. I do know from reading here that some pagans hung around for some time, but they were all forced out by organized religion. I look at this as the natural order of things. Pagan religions lost to organized religions because organized religions were ... organized, effective, seductive, offered hope for a better life beyond the mortal plane etc.

I do not mean to sound combative, I just don't understand the huge following that the pagan religions seem to have on the forums. I could see the introduction of playable pagans if the game started in the 9th century or so when the Vikings were in their heyday.
Because we want to bring back the glory days and rid out the evil Christians. ;)