What you DO want to see in 1.08 and what you DON'T want to see in 1.08!

[cybrxkhan]

A few ideas, I might forget some and post them later:

- Several new cultures – a few cultures important to the time period are noticeably missing, and some might even help in terms of balance: Volga Bulgar (in Cumania, to weaken the Cumans’ starting position); Berber (in North Africa, who are not only a large, broad population historically and nowadays, but who can also provide some conflict in North Africa and Andalusia as well); Nubians; and Pashtuns or some other east Persian group
- Agnatic-Cognatic succession where brothers (and their male descendants) inherit before daughters
- The ability for ambitious nobles/dukes in the Byzantine Empire to seize the Imperial throne for themselves – it’s not realistic having the same dynasty in Byzantium for so long
- Crusader AI should be coordinated, somehow
- The ability to choose grandchildren’s name, and choose landed childrens’ marriage partners – or at least approve of or deny them – I find it odd parents don’t have a say in their children’s marriages if they’re landed or living under another liege

 

[Ruwaard]

Agreed, though I'd knock him down to the rank of king. In the event of a successful Roman unification by the Byzantines, the Holy Roman Emperor would have lost his raison d'etre, so I'd have the decision remove the HRE and create (or usurp from the current holder if it already exists) the kingdom of Germany in its place. That way the former Emperor would still have his imperial dukes as vassals, but he'd have less power, prestige and influence and be the feudal equal to the other neighboring kings he used to have theoretical supremacy over.

It also means that Western Europe has no emperor tier, and thus it's a sort of every-man-for-himself scenario, with the restored Roman Emperor in Rome/Constantinople being Europe's only emperor-tier ruler... which is how it used to be.

I'd prefer that. In my opinion (you may disagree, and feel free to) both the HRE and ERE should cease to exist once the RE is reformed. They were effectively the Western and Eastern fragments of the old empire vying for political and religious supremacy over the other. If the united empire is restored, they ought to be mutually exclusive.

Under the current system with empires like Francia, Hispania, Britannia etc. around I disagree; I could agree if there weren't any other Christian (Imperial Christianity) Empires around.

Right, something like this, with the difference that as long as the extra 1.06 empires exist, I'd allow an "Empire of Germania" to persist where the HRE usually is after Translatio Imperii. Basically, the Empire of Germania would start with this "mantle" you are talking about (I like this expression).

Also, I'd leave the current HRE grey for the Empire of Germania, but I'd have some bright light silver for the actual HRE.

I agree, that if such a thing would happen under the current system, it should be 'demoted' from HRE to an empire of Germany, maybe with a name_tier = king. Furthermore a king of the Romans (king of the Germans etc.) could legally rule the Holy Roman Empire and as such it still was the feudal liege lord of the king of Bohemia etc. Even without the mantle of Holy Roman Emperor and the claim of imperial universalism, they will still, as king of the Romans/Germans, rule the territory of the Empire as (elected) monarch.

Regarding the colors IMHO the color of the Holy Roman Empire should be Gold (like the coat of arms), the alternate 'fantasy' German one should use the current HRE Grey.

 

[Mixxer5]

Lesson learned, we should provide more exhaustive lists of things we don't want.

I'll update mine...

Things I don't want added:

* Alien invasions
* Elves
* Time travel events (be your own grandfather)
* Planes, Trains and Automobiles
* Werewolves
* Sea monsters
* Playable horses

+
* Dwarfs (I know You said elves but You didn't mentioned Dwarfs)
* Orcs (same as above)
* Egyptian/Greek/Roman gods coming out of nowhere (I mean Deus Ex machina)
* Magic
* Yellow Submarines (other colors too)

 

[Cymsdale]

+
* Dwarfs (I know You said elves but You didn't mentioned Dwarfs)
* Orcs (same as above)
* Egyptian/Greek/Roman gods coming out of nowhere (I mean Deus Ex machina)
* Magic
* Yellow Submarines (other colors too)

The game already has Dwarfs.

 

[Mixxer5]

The game already has Dwarfs.

I mean- Dwarfs like Gimli from Lotr, not Dwarfs like Tyrion from Asoiaf

 

[TheChronoMaster]

I mean- Dwarfs like Gimli from Lotr, not Dwarfs like Tyrion from Asoiaf

Wait, does that mean Tyrion doesn't mind being tossed?

 

[Mixxer5]

Wait, does that mean Tyrion doesn't mind being tossed?

I think that main difference is that Tyrion uses sword and Gimli- an axe.

 

[gobolinno]

+
* Dwarfs (I know You said elves but You didn't mentioned Dwarfs)
* Orcs (same as above)
* Egyptian/Greek/Roman gods coming out of nowhere (I mean Deus Ex machina)
* Magic
* Yellow Submarines (other colors too)

adding to the list of the "DO NOT want this":

- Incas
- Aymaras
- Quechuas
- Atacameños
- Rapa nui (Eastern island people invading europe, DO NOT, please)
- Diaguitas
- Collas
- Yaganes
- Mapuches
- Alacalufes
- Picunches
- Chonos
- Onas
- Tehuelches
- Huilliches
(There I named all I remember in Chile)
ALSO:
- Mayas
- Iroquis
- etc...

 

[Mixxer5]

adding to the list of the "DO NOT want this":

- Incas
- Aymaras
- Quechuas
- Atacameños
- Rapa nui (Eastern island people invading europe, DO NOT, please)
- Diaguitas
- Collas
- Yaganes
- Mapuches
- Alacalufes
- Picunches
- Chonos
- Onas
- Tehuelches
- Huilliches
(There I named all I remember in Chile)
ALSO:
- Mayas
- Iroquis
- etc...

Atlanteans... And Eskimos.

But seriously- I want to have game playable at last. And quickly.

 

[brxbrx]

Atlanteans... And Eskimos.

But seriously- I want to have game playable at last. And quickly.

What's unplayable about the game? CKII's not known for its frequent crashes or game-breaking bugs (there are a few, but they're rare and and can be circumvented- not saying they shouldn't be fixed, just saying the game isn't unplayable).

 

[Yxklyx]

I want to see...

"The Black Death was one of the most devastating pandemics in human history, peaking in Europe between 1348 and 1350. "

"The aftermath of the plague created a series of religious, social and economic upheavals which had profound effects on the course of European history."

 

[Mixxer5]

What's unplayable about the game? CKII's not known for its frequent crashes or game-breaking bugs (there are a few, but they're rare and and can be circumvented- not saying they shouldn't be fixed, just saying the game isn't unplayable).

It's not mine but I totally agree:

I'm now revising my list to 5 simple points:

1. Fix the factions
2. Fix the factions
3. Fix the factions
4. Fix the factions
5. Fix the factions

 

[WankoStankins]

I mean- Dwarfs like Gimli from Lotr, not Dwarfs like Tyrion from Asoiaf

Gimli is dwarven, not dwarfen. Lord of the Rings dwarves are called dwarves, no dwarfs. Read the books!

 

[brxbrx]

Well, I don't feel that factions are so bad. I only get a civil war about once or twice a century, and it's usually because I'm trying to revoke something.
They could probably be tweaked a bit, though. Your heir apparent shouldn't want to lower crown authority, and vassals bordering likely invaders shouldn't want independence.

 

[Mixxer5]

Gimli is dwarven, not dwarfen. Lord of the Rings dwarves are called dwarves, no dwarfs. Read the books!

I do- but rather in Polish than in English. But I had strange feeling that I typed it wrong...

Well, I don't feel that factions are so bad. I only get a civil war about once or twice a century, and it's usually because I'm trying to revoke something.
They could probably be tweaked a bit, though. Your heir apparent shouldn't want to lower crown authority, and vassals bordering likely invaders shouldn't want independence.

Yeah... Mother of my heir shouldn't plot to kill him or decrease crown authority. There shouldn't be 10 different emperors during one year, dethroned one after another, with faction made by same persons (so yes- they firstly crown someone and than dethrone him). Vassals shouldn't join/create factions just because they can- without particular reason. And my vassals shouldn't try to get independence when bordering with quite aggressive Muslims. To be funnier- most of those guys that just gained independence have no problem with swearing fealty to me 2 weeks after getting their dreamed independence. Great heh?

 

[Theddude]

adding to the list of the "DO NOT want this":

- Incas
- Aymaras
- Quechuas
- Atacameños
- Rapa nui (Eastern island people invading europe, DO NOT, please)
- Diaguitas
- Collas
- Yaganes
- Mapuches
- Alacalufes
- Picunches
- Chonos
- Onas
- Tehuelches
- Huilliches
(There I named all I remember in Chile)
ALSO:
- Mayas
- Iroquis
- etc...

Or...

- Pueblos
- Comanches
- Chiracahuas
- Navajos
- Hopi
- Tohono O'odam
- Yavapai
- Comanches
- Apaches
- Kiowa
- Salish
- Yaqui
- Chinook

Got to have those Western tribes represent!

 

[JamesX]

1) Culture Buildings do not get destroyed because of owner culture.
2) Retinues do not fill your court

 

[LaurenceC96]

dinosaurs

 

[fargoniac]

Egyptian/Greek/Roman gods

I want.

 

[Theddude]

Egyptian/Greek/Roman gods

I want.

You know, I think it would be cool if your court chaplain studying culture could have a tiny chance to get an event like the heresy one, except for whatever brand of paganism your culture used to have. Uncovering ancient texts and allowing you to convert back to the Old Ways (or Zoroastrianism for Persians and Kurds).