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It isn't a unified country in the game anyway. However there was a King of France, so the in-game France represents territories under his control/pledging allegiance to him.

There was also a German King/Emperor. However, you don't start with Germany in the game you have to unite it first... Which gives you a lot of exciting gameplay :cool:

If you made these changes to the game. Then it would be possible to form France with Burgundy. :D
 

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There was also a German King/Emperor. However, you don't start with Germany in the game you have to unite it first... Which gives you a lot of exciting gameplay :cool:

If you made these changes to the game. Then it would be possible to form France with Burgundy. :D

It is posible already
 

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Indeed.

And, strictly speaking, that's a Holy Roman Emperor, not leader of a German nation-state. I mean, the Emperor at the start of the Grand Campaign is Czech.
 

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This is more a general suggestion for the Clausewitz games rather than EU3 specifically, but it would be good if the game came with a "World Builder" program, rather than modders having to wade through endless txt files. They're easy to edit, but can get tedious.
Also, if my own experiences are any indication, a debug program that identifies and indicates ctd-causing bugs/errors would be worth it's file size in gold to modders.
 
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I think we should be grateful that that modding is as easy as it is. :D

Look for the Clausewitz Validator in the EU3 modding forum, that's helpful with finding strange errors.
 

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Indeed.

And, strictly speaking, that's a Holy Roman Emperor, not leader of a German nation-state. I mean, the Emperor at the start of the Grand Campaign is Czech.

The Empire was known through most of its history as "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation."

The Emperor wasn't Czech he was from one of the German noble houses, Bohemia wasn't ruled by Czechs - it was ruled by German Lords, knights etc.
 

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The Empire was known through most of its history as "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation."

The Emperor wasn't Czech he was from one of the German noble houses, Bohemia wasn't ruled by Czechs - it was ruled by German Lords, knights etc.

The empire was not known as "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" for most of its history. This is only true from the 16th century onward. The HRE existed for about 800 years, so only 300 of them had that name.

Regardless of what the HRE called itself, it was only in the most broadest sense anything resembling a German nation.
 

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I believe he meant Czech in the sense that Wenceslaus was the King of Bohemia, grew up in Bohemia, Lived in Bohemia, died in Bohemian, spoke Czech, fought for Czech (or rather Bohemian) interest.
It's like how King Edward VIII was British in everyway but dynasty (House of Saxe-Gotha-Coburg).
Plus Wenceslaus hails from the House of Luxembourg, which is related more to French Dynasties and is of French origin. So you can't even say that Bohemia was ruled by German Lords in 1399.
 

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I'm going to keep this short and sweet for now: the one thing, the absolute number one, I want out of DW is an improved province decision ledger page.

Seeing all of the cool features, it's kind of sad that this is still what I keep coming back to. I'm very rarely disappointed with Paradox and hold them in extremely high respect, but I must say that I will be disappointed if province decisions are still such a pain in the "finished" EU III. Frankly I think this is something that really should have been fixed already.

Is it possible to form France with Burgundy???

As with any other French nation (or Breton or Basque, for that matter).

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/French_nation
 

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Does this - unify France event/decision - also work in the "Heir to the Throne" expansion?

If so, then I have to play a game as Burgundy...
 

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The empire was not known as "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" for most of its history. This is only true from the 16th century onward. The HRE existed for about 800 years, so only 300 of them had that name.

Please view this: The Holy Roman Empire of Germany (911-c.1500)

In most cases you had to be elected German King, before you could become Holy Roman Emperor...

Regardless of what the HRE called itself, it was only in the most broadest sense anything resembling a German nation.

In 1399, France was also not resembling anything near a unified French nation. You had to wait for Jean d'Arc...
 
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I definitely know what I want from EU3 expansion (maybe DW, maybe next one, hehe). :)


I wanna changes in diplomacy. I'm tired of unrealistic and "wanna-cheat?" diplomacy system. What's the point in "Unlikely-Likely" chances for agreements? Why should I ever try to arrange "Very Unlikely" alliance? I will get 20 rejections, lose 20 diplomats and spend all my good relations before arranging an alliance! Or should I cheat and save\load? Nah, It does not worth it! Also, If there are doubts for my neighbor to ally with me, why I can't propose better conditions?

In my opinion, Paradox already made much better system that can be used for agreements. It's not ideal, but more realistic and fun. Make them to work like missionaries! We choose agreement, we see our %/per month chance of accepting, we choose if this offer will be unlimited, or will be auto-cancelled after some time. And voila! Our offer is now in process of arranging (very realistic). All our "very likely" agreements will be made in a couple of days (also more realistic then current "right-after-clicking"), others will be made in months or years (of course if they are not "Impossible" or "0%/per m"). Such system will even make possible to send numerous diplomats, without current stupid "diplomat in route" limit.

What do you, guys, think?
 

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In 1399, the King of England controlled only London and nearby parts, everything else was more or less autonomous dukes that pledge allegiance to the king.

Rinse and repeat for every country in Europe.

What you are advocating is to turn Europe into hundreds of OPMs.
The reason why HRE is like that in EUIII, because unlike France which gets more united, HRE gets more and more decentralised while still retaining Imperial Power (to some extent).
 

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In 1399, the King of England controlled only London and nearby parts, everything else was more or less autonomous dukes that pledge allegiance to the king.

Rinse and repeat for every country in Europe.

What you are advocating is to turn Europe into hundreds of OPMs.
The reason why HRE is like that in EUIII, because unlike France which gets more united, HRE gets more and more decentralised while still retaining Imperial Power (to some extent).

But in 1399 the dukes, lords and earls of England didn't ally themselves with foreign Kings against the English Crown - the French Dukes and Princes did - as the nation of France was fragmented almost beyond repair. Not until the appearance of Jean d'Arc at the end of the Hundred Years Wars and the coronation of a French King did France re-emerge as a united nation/kingdom.

In the game the Kalmar Union is sub-divided into Denmark, Norway and Sweden via personal unions. But IRL it was a united Kingdom in 1399. Why isn't that country/Union in the game if France and England are???

The Kalmar Union began devolving following national uprisings by nobles in Sweden and Denmark in 1436. Later union Kings never had the centralized power that Margrethe I. and Erik VII. had held over the three countries. Following 1436 the Kalmar Union simply was a loose arrangement, best portrayed as personal unions between Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
 

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Flavor historical events and decisions. Of course it's harder to implement in EU3 cause there are more countries, eras and cultures, but it would be very good to have.
 

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I definitely know what I want from EU3 expansion (maybe DW, maybe next one, hehe). :)

1) The number of calculations will rise dramatically.
2) AI would be dumb. This is the kind of things human can do much better. F.e. we can sell the province for 1500 in a year or for 1000 in 6 month. We are not in a hurry, we wait - but computer doesn't know about it.
3) How do you think will it look in MP? "You are now allied to this cool guy"?
 

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Please view this: The Holy Roman Empire of Germany (911-c.1500)

In most cases you had to be elected German King, before you could become Holy Roman Emperor...
Precisely. That Article mentions the political entity's name as "Holy Roman Empire" without any hint of German-ness. In fact, the term "Deutscher Nation" was not used until after the 1512 Diet of Cologne.
Citation here.

Anyway, back to topic: I agree that, if there is time and capacity for that after the release, it would be great if we could be enabled to mod in more instances of "internal factions" in certain countries.