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I've been playing EU I for about nine months, and I can't believe I'm just getting around to asking this, but here goes:

Let's say your playing as Sweden, and you just annexed Prussia in a war. You know these two things are going to happen: (1) You've got 30 years worth of nationalism revolts ahead of you (2) Russia and Poland are going to DOW on you very soon since you are the #1 badboy around.

Do you place large amounts of soldiers in the Prussian provinces, while upgrading the forts? The soldiers are placed there with the thought of them not defending against opposing armies, but defending against the rebels. The forts however, are strictly for defense against other countries.

Or do you pull all forces out of the provinces until your wars are over, and leave them with minimal fortification? This would leave your thinly fortified provinces an easy target for other countries, but, these provinces may expel the invaders through the creation of rebel troops. However, the rebels may succeed in re-forming their original government (in this case, Prussia) which leaves you back at square one.

I always load up the provinces with troops, and re-fortify. This can prove costly if the province has a large fort, and the rebels gain control, because then you have to lay siege to the fort, and you run the risk of losing men due to attrition, etc.

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I'd use the armies in Prussia to take out Poland in one fell blow. They're close to the Polish capital and many valuable provinces.

Fortifying big is not a good idea - you've got a good chance of rebels capturing the fort, meaning a long siege and possible declaration of independence. I'd spend the money on solidifying your Russian border with forts instead (since the Russians tend to throw mass numbers of troops, let attrition do half the work for you.)
 

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Fortifying big is not a good idea - you've got a good chance of rebels capturing the fort, meaning a long siege and possible declaration of independence.

Yes, I couldn't agree more. That's why I'm starting to question that strategy.

But perhaps my example was a bad one. Let's say that you *know* that multiple nations are going to target those provinces, what then? IOW, I understand this:

I'd spend the money on solidifying your Russian border with forts instead (since the Russians tend to throw mass numbers of troops, let attrition do half the work for you.)

but let's assume that Russia has access to the former Prussian land.
 

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I think that as long as you control its capital province, the old Prussia cannot declare independence, isn't that so?
 
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I always keep forts as small as possible while there is still nationalism. As somebody said if the rebels capture a large fort it will be a sod to get back. As for others attacking you why worry about that? again low fort levels can be a benefit as you can capture your own provinces back quickly.

In your situation i would keep a small army ie about 10k just to put down rebels, and keep my main army in Sweeden. When the attack develops, wait to see where PL attack and then move your army somewhere else. MY EU strategy is always that of attacking where the enemy is not. Let them take Prussia, while you take their capital plus other nice provinces.
 

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Originally posted by SideshowBob
In your situation i would keep a small army ie about 10k just to put down rebels, and keep my main army in Sweeden. When the attack develops, wait to see where PL attack and then move your army somewhere else. MY EU strategy is always that of attacking where the enemy is not. Let them take Prussia, while you take their capital plus other nice provinces.
I've had some really bad troubles with attrition, when waging war on Poland. If Poland sieges or captures your provinces so you can't trace a line of supply, you are in pretty deep trouble. So, don't be too careless with your LOS, Kintaro. :)
 

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Don't fear Poland. Look on it as a beach-head for future expansion. I've
always had an easy time taking provinces from Poland, especially because
they're slow to fortify their provinces well. This means assaults can be very
effective.

Because I would plan on using the army, I would concentrate on building
that army up, and hold off on the fort. However, both should be done, in the
long run.

Don't ask me about Russia though. I have yet to have the guts to attack
them. I always keep them neutral or allied.
 

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Originally posted by dag2a
Don't fear Poland. Look on it as a beach-head for future expansion. I've
always had an easy time taking provinces from Poland, especially because
they're slow to fortify their provinces well. This means assaults can be very
effective.
They do have some serious generals and loads of cavalry, which will turn you into crow's food real easily, early in the game. I recommend caution, at least when playing Sweden and attacking out of a narrow beach head. Russia was against me at the same time, which may have contributed to my lack of resources to rebuild my starved armies, cut off, wandering the endless Polish plains. What gave me victory, after this cutting off from supplies reduced my army to one third in two years, was another army, attacking from Pommerania and taking Danzig and a couple of other provinces.