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Considering the track record of Paradox's games, it hard not to make such an assumption.Carolus Rex said:
I think I'll still come back to EUII. I still play games of HOMM2 more than I play 3 or 4 because I find it more fun.
Jayavarman said:
A track record which is improving, mind you.
HoI2 was just about 100% stable out of the box.
Indeed. When I first stumbled upon EUII as a fresh adolescent, it was a feeling I will never feel again. I was playing EUII at the same that I was discovering girls. What a great chapter in my life.SecondReich said:
Jayavarman said:Indeed. When I first stumbled upon EUII as a fresh adolescent, it was a feeling I will never feel again. I was playing EUII at the same that I was discovering girls. What a great chapter in my life.
I hope you didn't mix up what you're supposed to do with those two things.
I will hunt you down and force you to play as the Roman Empire.
It all depends on the mp quality of EUIII. Since i started playing MP i never play SP anymore, so MP is all that counts.
And about stability, after 5 patches for CK is still unstable as hell, so yes, i can understand why Bob is suspicious
And about stability, after 5 patches for CK is still unstable as hell, so yes, i can understand why Bob is suspicious
artemis667 said:
And remember that HoI2 was in game engine terms an upgrade of EU1.
EU3 has a whole new game engine
and like aladar and jayavarman say, track record does usually count for something
I seem to remember being told that the game engine of HoI2 was mostly written from scratch.Dr Bob said:
Peter Ebbesen said:
It was an educated guess based on the fact they look similiar, so quite possibly
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Oh, they share many of the same interface metaphors, so it is a natural assumption, I guess. Still, I'd be greatly surprised if more than 1-2% of the HoI2 code ever saw EU1.Dr Bob said:It was an educated guess based on the fact they look similiar, so quite possibly
Regarding MP stability and not needing so many patches to have a good game: I may not be so quick to honor Paradox's recent track record.
One word: Diplomacy.
I think realistically what will happen here is what happened to EU1 and HOI1.
EU3 will come out. Like Peter says, the first Byzantine mod will follow within NANOSECONDS....they're too popular. That won't be a reason to stay away.
Assuming EU3 is playable, which is...probable, though I'd be happier if I knew they were using tried and true engines like EU2 or HOI2, then there will be a flood of people trying the new game. For awhile EU2-land will be a near ghost town.
A few will trickle back, either 'cause they didn't like EU3, or their system can't handle it (probable high end CPU requirements). They will continue. A few more will stick around to finish up old games or simply because they're more comfortable with EU2, especially if EU3 is hard to learn.
Then, frankly, slowly they'll fade away. They'll either quit the forum, join the EU3 horde, or find another Paradox game. And EU2 will be a ghosttown again. Take a look at the EU1 forums if you doubt me.
That's my prediction anyway.
One word: Diplomacy.
I think realistically what will happen here is what happened to EU1 and HOI1.
EU3 will come out. Like Peter says, the first Byzantine mod will follow within NANOSECONDS....they're too popular. That won't be a reason to stay away.
Assuming EU3 is playable, which is...probable, though I'd be happier if I knew they were using tried and true engines like EU2 or HOI2, then there will be a flood of people trying the new game. For awhile EU2-land will be a near ghost town.
A few will trickle back, either 'cause they didn't like EU3, or their system can't handle it (probable high end CPU requirements). They will continue. A few more will stick around to finish up old games or simply because they're more comfortable with EU2, especially if EU3 is hard to learn.
Then, frankly, slowly they'll fade away. They'll either quit the forum, join the EU3 horde, or find another Paradox game. And EU2 will be a ghosttown again. Take a look at the EU1 forums if you doubt me.
That's my prediction anyway.